A Flash Free Season Three!

[quote=Xeronn][quote=NinjaGinge] [quote=Luther3000] You don't understand how removing Flash would gut the meta and radically shift the balance of power on almost every champion. It would fundamentally change the way the game is played forever. Imo Flash makes the game more exciting to watch and allows you to make plays and take risks. Many champions (or even entire roles) rely on it to be viable. It isn't going anywhere. [/quote] This is the part of the Flash argument that I agree with. Flash is a pretty OP spell, but I mean it's something we've all learned to work with and against. Removing it entirely would uproot soooo much, I just don't think people are willing to do it. [/quote] Sooo true.[/quote]

[quote=MyRepublic]I've come to the point where GMD'd logic doesn't even make sense to me. I've read everything and I can see no way that taking flash out would be a good idea. Maybe making it a dash would make sense, or maybe if it was like a jump to something like lee sin's w. But removing it would make the game so much more boring. Top and mid would just turret hug, and anyone with a gap closer would become obscenely op no matter how you "compensated" others. And then you talk about using [[ghost]] instead. But ghost is the same idea as flash. Get out of jail or quickly engage, or use it for juking, etc... You can't say one is ok and the other isn't just because one is used more. Arguing against flash is like arguing against infinity edge. "infinity edge should be taken out of the game. It's toxic, every adc gets it, and it doesn't provide any strategic depth." I'll throw you a bone here though. I won't play with flash for a month (yea only a month, I like flash i'm just proving I'm not just defending it cuz I need it) I don't need flash. I just think removing it from the game is a completely stupid idea.[/quote]

[quote=Berzerk]Flash is a core ability on a lot of champions who initiate, Galio and Annie wouldn't be able to do as much if they didn't have flash. Flash does give a get out of jail free card early, but if they use it the spells gone for a decently long time just come back again. If flash were removed there would be a lot more passivity and the only way to really "make a play" would be off of a skillshot CC or a flank.[/quote]

[quote=omagma][quote=Berzerk] Flash is a core ability on a lot of champions who initiate, Galio and Annie wouldn't be able to do as much if they didn't have flash. Flash does give a get out of jail free card early, but if they use it the spells gone for a decently long time just come back again. If flash were removed there would be a lot more passivity and the only way to really "make a play" would be off of a skillshot CC or a flank. [/quote] Don't the idea of the fact that some heroes simply don't WORK without flash startle you? i think its pretty stupid. And yes! It WOULD steer up the meta game. People will be mad and people will complain, but at the end of the day. If it creates a better game overall, what is there to loose? Lol needs a mayor meta change. The current competitive scene is boring and the viewer numbers show so.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Psychofrench] You could argue that clarity prevents people from managing their mana properly. Most of those summoner spells are there to offer an extra form gameplay, be it an escape or a safety net in term or hp or mana,etc...Instead of nerfing or removing a spell that is a fan favorite, maybe take a look at the ones that you never or barely ever see. Flash doesn't make shitty players better, it's a tool like another that people are free to pick or not to enhance their overall gameplay. [/quote] [[Clarity]] is a bad example because it is made obsolete by items such as [[Athene's Unholy Grail]] and [[Tear of the Goddess]]. Also, it doesn't have such a big impact on the game.[/quote]

[quote=Vaan99]Flash indeed is a broken spell, but I find it neceassery for balancing purposes, if it gets removed, it would be disastrous for many champions. It would create huge problem in balancing of champions and I think it's not worth the effort RIOT would have to make. If it got removed, shortly after people would find something new to complain about, like movement speed increase, or targeted CC. It's too big part of game, I doubt it will get removed anytime soon. Anyway, I wish you luck with your solo queue challenge, it could really be beneficial. If you learn to position and play without flash to the perfection, imagine what would you be able to do with flash! Have fun.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=Xeronn] [[Flash]] provides an escape for some champions who have no way of doing so. It also has an extremely long cooldown, so it's not like you can spam it. It is however just a very good summoner spell overall, hence the [[Flash]] meta. You can [b]not[/b] take it if you are confident with using something else, or the champion doesn't require the spell to excel. Also... [[Jarvan IV]] :) [/quote] ez/corki + flash = unfair.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=omagma] Lol needs a mayor meta change. The current competitive scene is boring and the viewer numbers show so. [/quote] Wat? LoL is smashing every record for viewership at the moment. Removing Flash would make competitive games a boring farmfest until 50 minutes because everyone would be too scared to do anything in lane.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=omagma] [quote=Berzerk] Flash is a core ability on a lot of champions who initiate, Galio and Annie wouldn't be able to do as much if they didn't have flash. Flash does give a get out of jail free card early, but if they use it the spells gone for a decently long time just come back again. If flash were removed there would be a lot more passivity and the only way to really "make a play" would be off of a skillshot CC or a flank. [/quote] Don't the idea of the fact that some heroes simply don't WORK without flash startle you? i think its pretty stupid. And yes! It WOULD steer up the meta game. People will be mad and people will complain, but at the end of the day. If it creates a better game overall, what is there to loose? Lol needs a mayor meta change. The current competitive scene is boring and the viewer numbers show so. [/quote] I completely agree, the viewer numbers utterly and completely shows how boring and unentertaining lol is to watch competitively.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Luther3000] [quote=omagma] Lol needs a mayor meta change. The current competitive scene is boring and the viewer numbers show so. [/quote] Wat? LoL is smashing every record for viewership at the moment. Removing Flash would make competitive games a boring farmfest until 50 minutes because everyone would be too scared to do anything in lane. [/quote] You assume that the meta doesn't change but that people just play more passive. If [[Flash]] gets removed, champs get changed to fit this and the jungle needs to be changed as well. The entire game changes; I agree that just removing it and not do anything besides that would just suck.[/quote]