Help a noob...:D

[quote=SkidmarkD]Hi,[/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe]It is still magic damage, so some bad ass MR item should work :P Other than that, lifesteal all the way :P[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]As a side note, getting [[last whisper]] or [[The Black cleaver]] will help you survive, as well as some good life steal, since the damage returned is based off damage done [i]before[/i] armor.[/quote]

[quote=Alcasea]in addition to what they have said, if you are playing ADC i would suggest you just take Last whisper, bloodthirster and a mercurial scimitar if possible. this combo would give damage and hard counters thornmail. also i haven't seen many tanks getting thornmail in quite a while. they usually just hp stack so getting BOTRK situationaly would work.[/quote]

[quote=rudyards]Thornmail isn't used due to the fact it only provides armor, meaning that mixed damage is strong against that. Add in the fact that it deals magic damage back and most tanks don't have mpen, it's not a very strong item. Just get some MR, and that should help. Merc Scimitar is a nice pick up.[/quote]

[quote=rudyards]Amumu is probably the only tank who gets MPen/MR shred.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]I'd say dealing magic damage... Attacking someone with a thornmail is a very bad example of focus, imo. Lifesteal can mitigate the damage but you'd be way better off attacking some other target. [quote=SkidmarkD] [quote=rudyards] Add in the fact that it deals magic damage back and most tanks don't have mpen, it's not a very strong item. [/quote] O_O My tank does. :D Always get at least some MPen on [[Amumu]]. Gotta try that one. :D Haven't seen it used in normal games either, just a few times now in ARAM, where it hurts a lot. [/quote] [[Soraka]] + [[thornmail]] way more effective, then. (+[[Dread]]+[[Abyssal Scepter]])[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=rudyards] Amumu is probably the only tank who gets MPen/MR shred. [/quote] Nope. [[sejuani]], [[Dr. Mundo]], [[Cho'Gath]], [[Malphite]] and [[Galio]] disagree.[/quote]

[quote=rudyards]Cho'gath occcasionally, Malphite depends, Galio yes, Mundo only gets Sorc's (unless he's bad), Sej shouldn't get MPen.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=rudyards] Cho'gath occcasionally, Malphite depends, Galio yes, Mundo only gets Sorc's (unless he's bad), Sej shouldn't get MPen. [/quote] Why not? [[Liandry's Torment]] is absolutely wonderful on her.[/quote]