Vel'Koz Scaling AP or Magic PEN*

[quote=infernalbird]The title is pretty much the summed up question; does vel'koz scale better with AP or magic penetration?[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]He scales fairly well with both. His main stat is CDR though. Then, it depends on what role you're fulfilling; if you're mid, then you require AP to wave clear, if you're support, then magic pen is the next best thing.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][icon=morellonomicon size=30][icon=sorcerer's shoes size=30][icon=rabadon's deathcap size=30][icon=void staff size=30][icon=zhonya's hourglass size=30][icon=liandry's torment size=30] That's what I usually build on mid, more or less. Item order can vary of course. On support I assume you just get [[sorcerer's shoes]] and [[haunting guise]] with a [[sightstone]] and then whatever AP stuff you can afford.[/quote]

[quote=Savlonic][quote=PsiGuard]On support I assume you just get [[sorcerer's shoes]] and [[haunting guise]] with a [[sightstone]] and then whatever AP stuff you can afford.[/quote] Every Vel-support game I've played consists of me rushing [[Sorcerer's Shoes]], following it up with [[Frostfang]] upgrade unless I can afford my [[Sightstone]], and [[Haunting Guise]] or [[Morellonomicon]], depending on what I can afford after [[Sightstone]] is complete. After guise and Morello, usually finish the [[Frost Queen's Claim]] to cap my cdr, not to mention the slow to make your [[Tectonic Disruption]] easier(trivial even) to land. At this point finishing [[Liandry's Torment]] is a good course of action, and for last item it varies. [[Void staff]] provides even more damage which is fantastic, but then there's the utility of [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] slowing for even more during [[Life Form Disintegration Ray]] and [[Plasma Fission]], as well as adding a slow to [[Void Rift]]. Finished build looks like this: [icon=Sorcerer's Shoes size=30](enchant of your choice late game)->[icon=Ruby Sightstone size=30]->[icon=Frost Queen's Claim size=30]->[icon=Morellonomicon size=30]->[icon=Liandry's Torment size=30]->[icon=Rylai's crystal Scepter size=30] or [icon=Void staff size=30] Extra slow Vs Extra damage [icon=Elixir of Sorcery size=30] of course as well if you manage to reach complete build and still have gold to spend.[/quote]