My Ashe Guide

[quote=jhoijhoi]D: =.= o.O ? My guide isn't updating? I got a friend to check to see what it was like and it's completely different to the guide I have now. ??? It shows it's updated when I log in to check, but it hasn't changed since like two weeks ago on my friend's computer.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]This is what my guide looks like when I am logged in: [center][IMG]http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h380/thejhoijhoi/wejwejwenowindsod.png[/IMG][/center][/quote]

[quote=Canoas]Still, it's ugly to look at. Long guides with useless information are bad. And if people complain that BS is not enough then they got to play better. Getting more survivability items on Ashe will just decrease your dmg output by a lot.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I know all champs have more than 50 armor by level 18, I was commenting on the early game benefits, which are also important.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]lol, @Canoas: I don't have those items in my guide anymore. I hope it's updated by now. I have removed a lot of stuff, so feel free to comment on my updated guide. Also, @The_Nameless_Bard: If you're a tank, such as Malphite, and you choose armour quints, seals and masteries AND get some sort of armour as your first item... That's 13 armour from seals, 12 from quints, 10 armour from [[doran's shield]], 6 armour the Hardiness masteries in defense and finally, [[malphite]]'s armour at level one (which I don't know off by heart and can't seem to locate at the moment, so let's guess it's around 18). 13 + 12 + 10 + 6 + 18 = 59 armour. At level one. Just trying to point out that [[youmuu's ghostblad]] is a very specialised item. With these potential runes, masteries and items, it is clear that even if you had Youmuu's on Ashe at level one, it wouldn't be enough to counter level one Malphite.[/quote]

[quote=Canoas]It seems it has been updated. It also seems to be even longer than before.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]^^ There's nothing wrong with a long guide. Though I'm thinking of reworking the "Targeting Champions" section. And no, if anything it's been reduced. I've deleted three chapters so far that I felt was unnecessary, and I've merged others. I've cut down on the quotes too. EDIT: What does everyone think of the new Havoc changes? Worthwhile to go 21/0/9 again? Seeing as Havoc now increases all damage and magic damage by 4% instead of just base?[/quote]

[quote=Slizer002][quote=jhoijhoi] ^^ There's nothing wrong with a long guide. Though I'm thinking of reworking the "Targeting Champions" section. And no, if anything it's been reduced. I've deleted three chapters so far that I felt was unnecessary, and I've merged others. I've cut down on the quotes too. EDIT: What does everyone think of the new Havoc changes? Worthwhile to go 21/0/9 again? Seeing as Havoc now increases all damage and magic damage by 4% instead of just base? [/quote] tbh - Yes. Not much to say, 4% is a shit ton when you are already critting in the thousands ^^[/quote]

[quote=Canoas]Between a small guide and a long guide with the same amount of information I'd always choose the small guide. One thing is a an in-depth guide with lots of information, another thing is a long guide with not so much information.[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]that is the item build I would currently use, but with [[Berserker's Greaves]] about 70% of the time. as for the guide it self, it's just too long to read, some things that i'd say tho is(dno if its been mentioned) [[Doran's blade]] stacking can help if you are having a terrible early game, max 3. Boots / 3 hp pots is a good start, and you can still go back and get a doran's blade. [[madred's bloodrazor]]... flat magic resis glyphs i cant even find runes on chapters/index bit but yea it's now a high elo item build, I.e, Last whisper, Zeal 15 0 15 masteries. http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=3-0-0-1-0-4-0-0-3-1-3-0-0-0&tree2=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-3-1-4-0-1-3-0-0-2-1-0-0-0[/quote]