Solo Top Leona

[quote=BluAnimal][quote=A Chubby Baby] imo it's okay, just you got a useless passive. something that will definitely bug me. [/quote] Agreed, that's the only thing keeping me from saying she's made for solo top as opposed to bot lane. I wish it would work more like [[lux]]'s passive, where she could gain the on-hit as well as her allies. But even then, it's deadly in ganks and teamfights late game.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]The passive isn't useless at all. Camping top is the new meta. More damage lets you snowball more easily.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]She has so much cc for junglers to followup that that extra damage is pretty insignificant.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][list=1] [*]Switch roles and let [[leona]] jungle. [*]Let [[Leona]] camp top for the same result. [*]???? [/list] [spoiler=Profit?] 4. No! Because you realise [[Nautilus]] is a way better option for the jungle than [[Leona]]. 5. Put [[Leona]] back in the kitchen, eh bot lane, where she belongs. 6. Jungle [[Nautilus]]. 7. ???? 8. Profit! [/spoiler][/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]But [[Leona]] is soooooooooo slow. Having a fed carry jungler gives more map presence too. You never know when a fed jungles comes out of nowhere and instagibs you.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=tehAsian] But [[Leona]] is soooooooooo slow. Having a fed carry jungler gives more map presence too. You never know when a fed jungles comes out of nowhere and instagibs you. [/quote] You obviously didn't read the spoiler, mister.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Oh yah I read it. But this is a discussion about [[leona]] at top lane and its viability, not how you can put other champions/roles in to make it better.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]Ok, in case you didn't get it. Leona is an awful top laner, why? It's simple: [list] [*] We can build her either ap or ad but ap Leona still deals no damage so I assume ad Leona. [*] She can't push or clear waves at all as her spells deal no damage. This means she is likely to get pushed and lose tons of cs or she gets zoned. [*] Passive is mostly wasted. Yes we can camp top but we won't for a very simple reason: Leona does, as most tanks, not snowball in any way. Camping, therefore, is fairly useless. [*] She offers nothing more than support Leona. She might get her tank items somewhat earlier but that's it. [*] No burst damage and relies solely on autoattacks to deal damage. This means she already gets shut down by a [[Ninja Tabi]]. She changes in some sort of [[Master Yi]] or [[Fiora]] with cc but no abilities that work with this build. [*] Low mobility and no escape spell, thus easy target for ganks. [*] Low mobility and no sticking power, thus prone to kiting. [*] You grant your enemy free farm. (and if your enemy is an [[Irelia]], a [[Jax]] or a [[Vladimir]] you might as well give up) [*] No sustainability. [/list][/quote]

[quote=Xeronn]^ Most of that sounds the same as [[Shen]], except for: - Low mobility and no escape spell, thus easy target for ganks. And [[Shen]] has a global ult, other than that.. yea. He is just a pain in the lane imo for enemies that don't have their own sustain or can't kill him.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]I kinda trust the OP in this, though I'd have to see. I do because the first time I played Leona I had no idea what I was doing in terms of items. I ended up carrying as a bruiser who started [[Trinity Force]] and then I went on as a hybrid-ish tank. I repeated this other times both on TT and SR and it worked. I was more than a stunbot, I deal damage and could cleanup. Need to buy her tho, but I think it's doable. Good early harass and nice for feeding snowball junglers like [[riven]]. Lategame, she is what she is.[/quote]