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[quote=tehAsian]Those builds O_o Yall must really love dem [[thornmail]]s.[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster]It's prob a low-level game (considering the item choices overall)[/quote]

[quote=Tripper6656]Levels were in the 20's and hey what is that supposed to mean!!! We needed the thornmail for the circumstances.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]No mres against glass cannon 250 farm [[veigar]]. >_> I am amazed to no end as to how you won.[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster]lmao [[veigar]] had no boots. Neither did [[shaco]] XD[/quote]

[quote=Sept][quote=Tripper6656] Levels were in the 20's and hey what is that supposed to mean!!! We needed the thornmail for the circumstances. [/quote] Does your veigar even know that AA doesn't stack. o.O And wtf that builds are really weird Lol.[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster][quote=Sept] Does your veigar even know that AA doesn't stack. o.O [/quote] [[archangel's staff]] stacks for the AP. With 5 [[archangel's staff]] and a [[rabadon's deathcap]], you can get about 1200 AP. I know because I've done that many times before I was level 30[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=RCIX] [quote=Nighthawk] AP carry kinda does scale the most with items though? ^ [/quote] AP carry has something like 2 stats to scale with (AP/CDR), and scales fairly linearly along them (CDR is capped at 40% and buying X ap pretty much always gets you Y more damage due to the bursty nature of casters). AD carry has 3 (AD, crit chance, AS) which all multiply off each other resulting in very quick, high scaling (a carry with 50 bonus damage, 50% crit, and 50% AS does a bunch more DPS than just +150 bonus damage). Not to mention there are more fancy passives for AD characters, such as the IE +crit damage passive and the black cleaver armor shred passive. [/quote] AP carries have abilities that scale off of 1, 1.2, etc AP. They also have 5 of them and have much higher base damage. Also that's the point, AP Carries NEED items to function, an AD carry doesn't need items as much as an AP does. That's all I was saying :c[/quote]

[quote=Sept][IMG]http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm418/Cepkin7/graves.jpg[/IMG] Hurrdurr <3[/quote]

[quote=RCIX][quote=Nighthawk] AP carries have abilities that scale off of 1, 1.2, etc AP. They also have 5 of them and have much higher base damage. Also that's the point, AP Carries NEED items to function, an AD carry doesn't need items as much as an AP does. That's all I was saying :c [/quote] Well then why are AP carries mid where they get levels over items and AD carries go bot where its easier to farm but they don't get levels as much? If you buy, let's say, 40 AP, then you'll get somewhere between 80 and 160 more damage on a full combo on an AP carry no matter whether you buy it late game or early game (excluding pre-6 where people don't have ults). If you buy an AD carry 40 damage, it will get you 40 DPS or so with no crit or AS, 80 DPS or so with a bunch of AS, and 240 DPS or so with a bunch of as + crit already on them.[/quote]