Regarding the GP10 nerf and roaming/jungling tanks

[quote=Lugignaf]I know it used to be standard to put 3-4 gold items on a support/roamer/jungler/ect. but with the "current" nerfs, how will this effect these "classes"? Will they be forced to farm more? Will roaming be thrown out all together? Will everyone just stack the other items? Thoughts?[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]I assume instead of philo stacking or HoG stacking you will just see more HoG+philo. even though, honestly, for the price of a philo, even without the GP, the mana and HP regen are such amazing stats, especially for support and roamers, I think there might still be 2philo 1 HoG. Also, maybe seeing more Kage's Picks, and poor GP and tryn with no more Avarice stacks QQ[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]Roaming was thrown out all together about a month ago. Support+AD Carry Bot, Mage Mid, Mage Top, Tank Jungle is usually the most efficient setup, and the support needs no farm in that setup. Usually, the support is there essentially to keep the AD Carry in lane longer, so they can get as much CS and farm as possible. Basically though, True Roaming is very difficult to do effectively, and also has been found to not be as effective as the "safe lanes" strategy.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]New meta is the double AP Carry combo. The 5 roles are: Tank Junglers AP Nuke AP Nuke AD Ranged Carry Support. With 2 AP Nukes coordinated properly, you can cripple 1 target instantly, make fights into instant 4v5s and basically win outright. But we will definitely still see supports getting Philosopher Stone + Heart of Gold for the gold generation.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=JunSupport] New meta is the double AP Carry combo. The 5 roles are: Tank Junglers AP Nuke AP Nuke AD Ranged Carry Support. With 2 AP Nukes coordinated properly, you can cripple 1 target instantly, make fights into instant 4v5s and basically win outright. But we will definitely still see supports getting Philosopher Stone + Heart of Gold for the gold generation. [/quote] This basically. I believe that the 2 AP is mainly because of the lane security, as apposed to the Single target nuke potential, as people will very commonly use Gragas, Brand, and Alistar as their AP Carries, all very AoE'ish characters.[/quote]

[quote=Hamduden][quote=JunSupport] New meta is the double AP Carry combo. The 5 roles are: Tank Junglers AP Nuke AP Nuke AD Ranged Carry Support. With 2 AP Nukes coordinated properly, you can cripple 1 target instantly, make fights into instant 4v5s and basically win outright. But we will definitely still see supports getting Philosopher Stone + Heart of Gold for the gold generation. [/quote] As we saw the high-ELO scums play it in S1 Championships, yeah. I believe you're right. [quote=Temzilla]Roaming was thrown out all together about a month ago.[/quote] Could you perhaps explain why roaming all of a sudden is not viable? x)[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]/cry WHAT HAPPENED TO AD MELEE D:!!!! Damn you new meta-games![/quote]

[quote=Lazukin]No, new meta is 4 AP with one tank that builds Madreds for Magic Damage http://www.own3d.tv/video/137381/Riot_vs_Pro__s_Showmatch[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I convinced some of the people in chat at... 12:00 AM to do this "today".[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Lazukin: No, [i]you[/i] just wrong. Every team needs an AD carry who can make turrets break quickly and the best teams always have a support who can heal and boost the team.[/quote]