Zilean, what do you see him as?

[quote=Aidenmbdaly]OK, so basically my friend and I yesterday had a very big argument yesterday over what Zilean is seen as. He said that his AP nuking abilities were on the same levels as Annies, and he could be the main AP damage of a team. And also that he was considered a caster more then a support. I said that he could do some pretty nice damage, but his primary role was more often a support then a caster, and that he could not compare to Annie in terms of damage. SO basically, you guys know more about the game and Zilean then we do, what is your opinion?[/quote]

[quote=Scrax]He's best played as a support. He got ONE, I repeat, ONE damaging spell. He does not burst as much as Annie, and far from it. You're correct in this discussion. Zilean should NEVER be the main AP damage on your team, but rather the support.[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]He's a support, if he's doing more damage then Annie then Annie is doing something wrong. (Dreadfully, dreadfully wrong.)[/quote]

[quote=Aidenmbdaly]Ok after talking to him he would like to withdraw the comparing to Annie comments, but instead compares him to Nidalee. Basically I say that Nidalee and him are similar in that both can support and damage, but I say nidalee is better damage while zilean is better at supporting. Not trying to make a new thread topic but he now said that he doesn't think zil is as good a nuker as Annie.[/quote]

[quote=Scrax]Nidalee can heal, grant map-awareness, and take down towers quite fast. Not to mention she's ranged. BUT! And this is a huge but; She can shapeshift into a pure damage dealer. It's a huge difference :) She's a good carry. Nice damage, nice utility, and a nice attack speed buffing heal.[/quote]

[quote=McR00ster]Hes a support, a very over rated one.[/quote]

[quote=Scrax]Overrated? He's a game changer. Carry dying? Ressurect him. Can't chase the person down? Speed boost, or slow. Got a stealther on your team? Stealth-bomb them for a great early game. He's good :D[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]He was/is used so much because who wants to have to kill a 2k elo player twice? =3[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]Zilean should NOT be played as a pure damage dealer. Even if you could get mega-strong bombs, you have to wait 4 seconds to deal the damage (unless you double bomb, but that's not consistent nuke). 4 seconds is the difference between your carry dying before/after their carry. However, Zilean's bomb is a fantastic poke, so I think that it's viable to stack slightly more AP than other support champions (such as Janna).[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]Zilean is a support for reasons already mentioned above. The thing is Riot always gives all characters SOME kind've damaging move because otherwise it would be a pain to farm / lane without them and people would feel helpless. His bombs have great AP ratios so that he doesn't NEED to stack AP to be able to farm / deal some damage. I believe he is best played by taking CDR, mana, and aura buffing items. :)[/quote]