No real point in making guides on this site

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Nighthawk] Not quite. They are different guides for different purposes. Carrying in 1500 is different then carrying in 2200. [/quote] Far from it. A guide that works in 2200 would work far better than a guide that works only in 1500 in 1500. Also, they don't need 50k word guides. Any more than 10k for a champion and it's rhetoric verbosity.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=Xenasis] [quote=Nighthawk] Not quite. They are different guides for different purposes. Carrying in 1500 is different then carrying in 2200. [/quote] Far from it. A guide that works in 2200 would work far better than a guide that works only in 1500 in 1500. Also, they don't need 50k word guides. Any more than 10k for a champion and it's rhetoric verbosity. [/quote] No...it doesn't. You don't seem to get that? The same way some champions are viable in 1500 that are considered shit in 2200. Also 50k was an example :P Egypsian Lover may well have 50k words in the karma guide though. Was merely stating they probably don't even want to write 5k words in their guides.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Nighthawk] No...it doesn't. You don't seem to get that? The same way some champions are viable in 1500 that are considered shit in 2200. Also 50k was an example :P Egypsian Lover may well have 50k words in the karma guide though. Was merely stating they probably don't even want to write 5k words in their guides. [/quote] Yes. Yes it does. Stuff is viable in 1500 that is shit in 2200 if it's played by an exceptional player, yes. Like AD or jungle TF. Though since it's a completely different way to play TF (for fun), it's allowed to exist in every elo range, even though it won't work (in every elo range) as well as AP TF. In higher elo ranges, it's more punishing, yes, but it works in EVERY elo range, just not as well as others. That's just a quick example. Do I need to mention the fact that SaintVicious is known for using obscure junglers in his elo range?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]SV at 1200 jungles twitch with Leviathan's, PD, Sword of occult, etc... He's a "special" person.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=DuffTime] SV at 1200 jungles twitch with Leviathan's, PD, Sword of occult, etc... He's a "special" person. [/quote] He does do it at high elo occasionally, too. I know, it was an example, that it can be used, though clearly it's not as good as other champions doing the same, or going a different build.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]He's also a fkin retard loooool[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288][quote=DuffTime] An example, if I might. We have a platinum player, who is part of a team which has played a reasonable amount against top teams. You can see here in his guide that he rattles off some of the top player's name in succession; http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/chandros-tournament-corki-136711 And yet, only 23 votes. This has worked in tournament format against teams like CLG, but it's not established yet as the #1 guide. I think the issue people are having is that logically, that doesn't make sense, and could potentially look bad on MobaFire to outsiders. *Goes to nominate* Also; [quote=orhpeus] furthermore if someone really big in the LOL community gives their stamp of approval that might make MOBAfire appear more legit. Getting that to happen would be as simple as asking: "hey big platinum ELO guys test these builds out and give us feedback" and maybe offer some incentive. Of course I do not know any high ELO players, but I am sure finding them would be simple enough. [/quote] Why would they do that? I wouldn't even want to do that, and I'm not a famous high elo player. Unless you pay them, I don't think they will test out guides written by lower skill players. [/quote] I believe Chandro is the highest elo person whose semi active here . Wish people would relalize that and he's actually nice.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]He's a prty darn nice guy, yep.[/quote]

[quote=Snowfall][quote=TheWeekndOVOXO] [quote=Xenasis] [quote=Nighthawk] We could always just have guide makers put in what elo the build/guide is for and have search parameters through that, eg sally makes a 2200 elo guide, bob makes a 1500 elo guide, etc [/quote] That would make absolutely no sense. Sally's guide would be superior to Bob's guide, assuming they both put the same amount of effort, etc, into it. Why would that advantage the system in any way?... [/quote] Yeh, Xen is absolutely correct. It's totally unfair to judge guides by the owner's ELO. [/quote] ELO is the dumbest thing to go off when you're using a guide - Unless it's a platinum player writing a guide on their main character, ELO probably means nothing. Yesterday, I saw a 1.7kELO [[Irelia]] in a normal, he was like 'I'M PROUD, 18 MINUTE TRINITY', I told him that rushing [[trinity force]] is bad on [[Irelia]], and also even if he was rushing [[trinity force]], he should have it by the 14 - 15 minute mark. He then replied 'SHUT UP NOOB I'M 1.7K ELO' -facepalm-[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Elo is pretty darn accurate when a player has about 300 games played.[/quote]