Riven Theorycrafting

[quote=Lugignaf]All that life steal won't help if you don't have the durability to back it up. If even one of her abilities apply on-hit's though, it'll all be worth it.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Lugignaf: I never said it was perfect. It's all in theory. Plus, it has Banshee's Veil, so that's plenty of durability for a lot of some champions. I highly doubt any of her abilities apply on-hit. W is an AoE stun, E is a shield, and her Q and R are AoE style attacks. Maybe the second Bloodthirster was excessive. A Black Cleaver may work better. If you hit harder and faster, you get more health back. :D[/quote]

[quote=Slizer002]Atmogs into Bloodthirster stuff - Perhaps if her laning is weak, rush Wriggles for sustain ^^[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]@Jun Banshee's veil?! SHE HAS NO MANA!!! ASADSOINLKSDNOPLKPKN *RAGE* But honestly, I would only go for BV if I really needed it for like, VS Karth or something. I'd get QSS otherwise. 1 spell will most likely get poked off by something stupid like a volley.[/quote]

[quote=Skrallz]Hexdrinker is such a good item, combined with your shield, 2 stuns and a dash(shield), you'd be ungankable ... Having a lot of mr early isn't bad if it helps you out to do better and it doesn't take away too much damage. That's why i like hexdrinker, good balance between damage and price :)[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Qss needs to overtake bv soon. It should have already especially on low mana or no mana champs[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]@Lugignaf: Banshee's Veil is [[Banshee's Veil]] The bubble veil thing is valuable enough that I've seen Mundos, Shens, and Katarina purchase it and I did not feel it was a bad choice. The bubble is just that good - It's like an umbrella, useful be it rain or shine - Almost always useful. But I agree, it's more of a counter-pick. Maybe something like this. [[The Brutalizer]] -> [[Mercury's Treads]] -> [[Vampiric Scepter]] -> [[Phage]] -> [[The Bloodthirster]] -> [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]] -> [[Frozen Mallet]] -> [[Guardian Angel]] -> [[Last Whisper]][/quote]

[quote=Pwnzor1130]I'm thinking something like Fatma's with merc treads, youmuu's, BC, and a BT. Honestly, if you're getting youmuu's I would rather have a BC over a LW. Does her Q apply BC stacks? If it does that would make it an even better item on her...[/quote]

[quote=Blydden]I think Riven might actually be able to jungle. No mana costs, a very strong Q it seems, a shield, cc for ganking, and one hell of an ultimate. Probably not going to be the next [[Nocturne]] but could be near [[Yorick]]'s level maybe? Anyway: Solo Top. 21/0/9. Armor Pen marks, Armor/flat Yellows, CDR/flat blues, AD/flat Quints. R > Q > E > W, with a point in W at level 2, and a point in E at level 3. Item build: (JUNGLING START): Cloth Armor & 5 HP Potions OR Vampiric Scepter (just speculating, she probably will not be able to jungle, but I'm thinking.) Laning: Boots + 3 HP Potions (Maybe a Doran's Blade? But I hate getting Doran's items) Avarice Blade Ionian Boots of Lucidity Trinity Force Infinity Edge Defensive Item Youmuu's Ghostblade Last Whisper OR Defensive Item Trying to avoid Atmog's...although that will probably how most people will build her I bet.[/quote]

[quote=Pwnzor1130]You do need some defensive items. Atmog's or Fatma's do make sense as they give her amazing health as well as an even crazier shield with its 1:1 AD ratio. How does ~4k raw HP sound?[/quote]