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September 5, 2012 8:00pm
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FalseoGod » September 5, 2012 8:00pm | Report
So I've started dabbling a bit with Syndra on PBE (nothing super in-dept). She has that great zone capability feel that Zyra and Orianna bring, although she reduces her utility side for a more bursty one.

One of the things I noticed is that she's a pretty nice ganker once you're used to her mechanics. Her E can really pick off a runner and help tearing him/her apart. It's basically grab a minion for slow, spam spheres and when they're running (if you think your ult wouldn't suffice), stun, Q, ult.

The thing I'm most concerned about right now is her itemization tho. I'm thinking something similar to how I build Orianna or Zyra:

Boots + Pots
Double Doran's
Rabadon's
Mana Regen (Athene's perhaps)
Rilay's or Zhonya's (all her spells are AoE, do she doesn't use Rylay's that well. On the other side, early RoA doesn't use much of her damage advantage/zone)
Survivability item/void staff, stuff

Since she has such a nice range, I assume Abyssal may not be too good on her. On the other hand, her nice CD's and AoE damage wouldn't make a WoTA a terrible item for the lane phase.

Anyone deviated a lot from this? Thoughts? I'm curious.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by The Overmyynd » September 5, 2012 10:46pm | Report
A really early wota probably not a great idea, since her mana isnt really crazy managable. But i def want max cdr on her (or as close as possible) to make dat ulti rival veigar. I believe an early athenes is a good choice, and that should solve your mana issues for most of the game. After that, its really up to you. You could go assassin spec with Rabadon's Deathcap, Void Staff, Will of the Ancients and Deathfire Grasp, or survival spec with Rod of Ages and Rylai's Crystal Scepter. I think that, like most mid champs, the items you build are going to be dependant on the situation. Early Double dorans=good decision almost no matter what, but I think this isn't going to be one of those champs i grab archangels on. And def not abyssal any more since it got nerfed. Morellos probs not a great idea unless you REALLY want that absolute 40% cdr. All of this just IMO, ofc.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by MrCuddowls » September 5, 2012 10:58pm | Report
She is weird as ****
But adaptable
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Buranri » September 5, 2012 11:41pm | Report
I didn't get a chance to play a lot with her, but I played about 10 minutes of lane in a bot game. Impressions... really mana hungry. That's always a pain, but something that's easy to overcome. My instinct would be to bring her Q to level 2 or 3, perhaps, then max R>W>E>Q. The point or two early will help bring the cooldown a bit and make clearing minion waves easier. Her W takes a bit of getting used to, and I may finally have to bring out smartcast for her. The E is a great tool for escaping.

No ideas on item builds yet, but I think I might pick her up as a mid once she's officially out.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FalseoGod » September 6, 2012 3:32am | Report
MrCuddowls wrote:

She is weird as ****
But adaptable


Like Catwoman? *_*

Thanks for the feedback up until now =) Yeah, I agree that her mana issues are probably the greatest problem about her, but makes sense. Laning demands some care with these.

Also thought about CDR, but usually blue buff + elixir already helps, and Athene's pretty much core on her (or archangel's, but seems to delay her). I thought about Rabadon's coz she seems very focused on single-target disposal even though she has tons of AoE.

There's also the "what to max" question, I've been doing Q>W>E, but W has a lot more damage (with a higher mana cost), although it's a lot more predictable. I'll probably keep it like that for now though.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Jpikachu1999 » September 6, 2012 8:04am | Report
I usually go Boots > 2x Doran's > Chalice > Revolver, seems to solve most mana problems early on, even more so if you get blue, plus it gives you nice sustain.

I like maxing Q first, it's your main poke and all of your other spells use it anyways. Plus, 15% extra damage from her passive is nice :3 Her ult is fun, so funny to see like 8 Q balls out on the battlefield after you use it.

I've been going something like this:

Ionian Boots of Lucidity (Get Sorceror's Shoes early)
Athene's Unholy Grail
Will of the Ancients
Rabadon's Deathcap
Void Staff
Having trouble deciding between Rylai's Crystal Scepter and Zhonya's Hourglass. The spammable slow on Q is nice, as is the health from Rylai's, but Zhonya's has that active.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by TheJohn » September 6, 2012 11:32am | Report
I tryed WotA, but it was kinda useless imo, the heal isn't great enough to keep me alive
CDR + mana is a good combo, and some damage too
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by IceCreamy » September 6, 2012 11:52am | Report
I was thinking

Sorcerer's Shoes
Rabadon's Deathcap
Athene's Unholy Grail
Void Staff

is core.

Situational:

Will of the Ancients / Zhonya's Hourglass / Deathfire Grasp (get early Kage's Lucky Pick) / Lich Bane

Rod of Ages is a bad item on almost every champion (I'd only buy it on Anivia, Singed and jungle Nunu, while Morgana and Amumu are considerations) and Rylai's Crystal Scepter seems measly because W slows, E is a stun and her abilities are AoE.

Of course I take Ignite + Flash.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by throatslasher » September 6, 2012 2:24pm | Report
This champion seems to be all about cooldown reduction. And honestly, to me, she seems really underpowered. Either her ult+aoe stun will be broken, or she'll just fall to pieces if she gets cc'd in the middle of her combo.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Anastasios » September 6, 2012 2:40pm | Report
I played only 1 game with her, but it seems really hard to stun someone with your e. And every time i use W i feel like i'm flailing stuff aroung with a gravity gun. The good thing though is that you can pick up Heimer's turrets. I agree with throatslasher that she feels pretty underwhelming.

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