To be very honest, I am really pissed off on the way she commented. She acted like I was a 5 year old that doesn't know that a square doesn't fit through a circle. She is taking words out of my mouth that are totally wrong. She says I think in ways that I don't even consider thinking about. I'm sick of people that do that. This is my guide, my personal preference so yeah.

Just because I rather have AP runes than Magic Pen makes me "lack experience" in this game? And then she starts acting even more idiotic because I put the normal AP runes there too, although my explanation said that It's because most people bought those and you could use them. And apparently she can tell by my guide how I am in real life. That's nice, very nice.

English isn't my first language, I'm pretty good at it. But I'm not a master in it, that a sentence or piece of text can provide other thoughts than I ment is more likely than possible. But he / she shouldn't of said it in that *****y way. How she started her comment was very nice too : "I think the downvotes are fair" - Oh, how fun to read that. Especially if it's the first line of a wall of text.

Then she just starts drilling me into the ground like there's no tomorrow. People make mistakes, I am no hero at making guides and I am willing to learn. But if you read these comments it's just unpossible. This community is as bad as the community from League of Legends itself.

My 2cents, I'm sorry if I sounded rude in this comment. Didn't mean to, just wanted to say what was on my mind about him / her.

Hm?

Reading the conversation of you two gives me following impression:

1. You don't have that giant ego sitting next to you. It's sitting instead right on your chair.

2. You are rude right now, not Astrolia. Take your time after reading a comment and calm down. Good start is right now when you read this :) I have had problems with that as well but I got used to that.

3. This is a forum. If I release my new "Full Ap Vayne Pro Guide" I cannot expect people to think positive all the way. I can tell: And? It's my preference! AP Vayne is obviously OP and that high elo douche can't tell me what he (she) wants. Is that going to improve my build, my gameplay or help others on the site? I don't think so.

If your really care about helping people with your guide, you shouldn't care so much about rating. unless your ego says so :) (mine does it all the time^^).

4. Look at my guide. Got a downvote with the the reason: noob. Nothing else said, I pmed him, no reaction. Not a reason to rage for me at all. Instead I'm trying to be active and meet other players. And maybe, just maybe they will vote for my guide and make this little vote nonsense. And I will be happy again all the way :)

Meh, don't really care anymore. Tried my best, tried to help, nobody gives a ****. I don't either. :)
So just leave will ya? You're kind of annoying with that giant ego sitting next to you.

@Night: Liandry's Torment + Rylai's Crystal Scepter makes a strong combo Annie, but I doubt this author knows why.

@Levitated: You know, I actually read your guide, but that doesn't change anything I said. A guide author should have their **** together before writing a guide. "It's my first guide" means nothing to me. Archangel's Staff is not optimal, especially not when buying Tear of the Goddess as your 12092849th item. Your reasoning doesn't really help you either. "It's my opinion"? Okay, but why?

And yes, I saw the mpen marks on your optional/other stuff. Here's the thing though: It says a lot about you and your (lack of) experience at this game if the best in slot option is an "optional" thing. Btw, the thing that's on the top of the guide when the user clicks and looks at the cheat sheet is Greater Mark of Scaling Ability Power, not your list of "optional" stuff (which also hilariously includes flat AP marks).

Also, you said "you can buy Abyssal Mask in place of Void Staff". In order for a person to write that sentence with a straight face, they have to believe that Void Staff can be replaced with Abyssal Mask, or else why would they have even written that to begin with? It's like the idea of building Abyssal Mask in addition to Void Staff is an impossible and foreign concept.

And why do you recommend Shard of True Ice at all if you don't even like it? I obviously didn't read your guide, so I wouldn't know that you put "because it helps you if you aren't last hitting properly"... except I did read your guide, and I commented in my previous post on how a GP10 item doesn't help if aren't last hitting because it takes 30mins to pay for itself. In other words, I'm saying the condition you put in for buying the item makes no sense anyway.

Etcetcetc.

you have liandry's, rylai's and voidstaff, all 3 that fall into the category of 'there are better items' for annie.

you delay deathcap until your 4th slot and dfg until your 5th, you have scaling mregen and ap marks LOL.

you list brand as a counter when he can be played around.

your skill order is ****ed up it's so bad, and your guide has nothing to really warrant any positives that would make me look the other way on these.

Jezus christ, is being nice too much to ask? And I made that blog post for people that TROLLVOTE (aka downvote because they feel like it. I never said my guides were super awesome and that they don't deserve downvotes). I don't really give a **** if people downvote me if they have a good reason. I try to fix it asap and am trying to get better at this. But if everybody comments like you do I'll much rather just give up. They're still my first 2 guides, you can't expect me to be perfect in it from the start. So how about thinking to be a little less rude, huh?

Archangel Staff is IN MY OPINION a good item on Annie since you get more mana and you get AP for the total amount of mana you have. I have it so late since I rather have the other items first so you can do more damage instead of just having 5 items that you still need to build into something.

And how should I explain the runes then: "You get more AP." <- Yay, that's so fun too read. Also if you actually pay freaking attention, you should know that MP Runes are in the optional. I like the scaling AP better, let me play with it. I like it more that way than you, so what? Personal Preference all the way, yo.

And again.. where in my guide did I say that Abyssal Mask is the same as Void Staff? I said you could replace it for the Magic Resist you get and you still get a little bit of Magic Penetration. I NEVER said that those 2 were the same. And about the Runic Affinity buff, I didn't know that. I'll change that.

Also, Annie is squishy, yes. I mention it, yes. Why? So people would be carefull enough. Rod of Ages is still in the 'Other Options' at the item explanation. I don't have it in the build, why? I'm always carefull with Annie so I tend to die less and because I think other people reading this guide would also be smart enough to know they have to be extra carefull then. But if you want, I'll throw it in.

About the True Shard of Ice reread what I said about it: "But i don't recommend this, there are much better items." <- YES, EXACTLY. I tell you to buy something else. Some people just like this item so I included it.

Now, can you be a little bit nicer next time you freaking comment?
Thank you.
I'll edit my guide with your "positive" criticism, if you can really call it that.

Hello. I am reviewing your guide because of the blog post you made where you said that people were giving you "unfair downvotes". Upon reading your Annie guide, I think these downvotes are very fair.

• Annie used to be one of my most played characters. Did she gain have some kind of mana scaling in the past 6mo that makes Tear of the Goddess good on her? Didn't think so. According to statistics, more people build Spirit Stone, a jungler item, than they do Archangel's Staff on Annie.
• What makes even less sense is that you build Tear of the Goddess as like a 10th item on Annie instead of ASAP. So not only are you building a sub-optimal item that doesn't immediately add to your burst damage, you are building it 10 hours later than a person who normally builds Tear of the Goddess would build it.
• Greater Mark of Scaling Ability Power = What? They "make you do more damage with your spells"? Greater Mark of Magic Penetration makes you do even more.
• Abyssal Mask does not replace Void Staff. -20 flat pen versus 35% pen. Why don't you learn game mechanics before recommending scaling AP marks because "you do more damage" and saying that -20 flat pen is the same as 35% pen?
• Runic Affinity does not make your baron buff last longer.
• How is Expanded Mind so important compared to a unique effect like Mastermind ? Especially when you insist on building Tear of the Goddess?
• No mentions of Zhonya's Hourglass or Rylai's Crystal Scepter (or Guardian Angel), but plenty of complaints that Annie is so squishy.
• Kage's Lucky Pick into True Shard of Ice makes no sense for an AP mid. How does it make up for you not last hitting properly? It doesn't start actually giving you gold until it pays itself off.
• No mention of warding near Wraiths either.

Oh, and I don't have an Annie guide, so you can't even claim that I'm downvoting you to make "my guide" #1.

Haha, thank you very much! ;) And enjoy your Annie skin :D



I hope I can change your mind about the downvote..

I added Spellsword into the mastery tree now, have to admit I didn't actually read every mastery. Big mistake.. Also changed some of the items in the build. Rod of Ages and Mejai's Soulstealer are now situational items.

Added Liandry's Torment as first item, changed Tear of the Goddess to buy after 2nd boots and added Deathfire Grasp to the build to.

Thank you for commenting though!
It's good to hear some criticism. Instead of just people downvoting.

Again, thank you for your time.
Hope my build is a little bit better now!



I looked at it and I changed some stuff around, thank you for the compliment on the structure.
I try my best making guides that look good and also help a lot. ^_^
Thank you for your time! :3



Mejai's is now a situational item together with Rod of Ages, also changed Tear of the Goddes to buy it after your 2nd boots. :)
Thank you for the criticism!
You learn from your mistakes. :D



I didn't max a skill at level 9 but at level 10. 1 level isn't going to make much of a difference, also it isn't mandatory to max a skill at level 9. It's recommended but it's not gamechanging that I max it on level 10.

Also I don't force you to follow this sequence, I just want to show you which way you should go. You can still choose which skill you prefer to max first.

Thank you for your time, though!
Hope I changed your mind a bit about the downvote.

Mejais tear and you dont max a skill at level 9

Good guide overall but i would suggest adding mejais as situational and after your 1st core item like rod of ages, also build tears of godess WAAAAY earlier not as lategame item

I like the structure, but the comment above me states also some truth :P

Look at it! :D

Well, for a start, Mejai's Soulstealer should only ever be a situational item. There are some rare exceptions to this rule, but Annie is not one of them.

If you're getting Tear of the Goddess/ Archangel's Staff, you should also get Seraph's Embrace. If you actually intend to build this item at all, it should be built much, much, much earlier to charge the mana pool, not late.

Annie is primarily a burst nuke. This means she utilises 3 stats in particular: CDR, AP and MagPen.

Other than a fully stacked Mejai's you have no CDR items. Rod of the Ages will give you hp, but that will be useless without also having magic resist or armor to back it up. Not to mention that Rod of the Ages is not an optimal item for Annie, nor should it ever have been.

Items for you to consider:

Liandry's Torment - increases damage output and sustain.
Deathfire Grasp - This should be almost core (if not actually core) on Annie.
Zhonya's Hourglass - Great active, I believe it still lets you control your bear if you have already summoned it.

No Spellsword for last-hitting? Your Q isn't always readily available to you, you know. And with the sheer amount of AP you should be building, it probably wouldn't be an insignificant amount either.