Trinity Force -> Zephyr at Irelia/Udyr?

[quote=NicknameMy]The thing why it works on [[cho'gath]] so well is the 900 bonus health from [[feast]], which gives you great amount of survivability with only a few items. Also, again, you don't need to get more damage early, you got enough damage to beat them early. Similar to that, you also buy defense on [[garen]], because his damage is already high enough. But against someone like [[nasus]], who has strong sustain, [[zephyr]] first is good to bring him down anyway. [[wit's end]] maybe does more damage, but it doesn't offer 10% movement speed which is already strong earlier to be in range for every auto attack, CDR so you have your [[feast]] more frequently and Tenacity, which means you can get [[boots of swiftness]] for even more MS early. I don't think [[ghost]] alone is enough, as the duration isn't that long. You need more MS to stay close for every AA.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]900 health doesnt mean much without armor or MR to back it up. A zephyr will not help you beat [[Nasus]]. Your reasoning on pretty much everything else is flawed. What do you take with [[Ghost]]? I assume it's replacing [[Flash]], which is pretty stupid considering you need that to clutch nom people.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Why you would need a clutch nom if you are on top of your enemy anyway? Also, [[frozen heart]]+[[spirit visage]] is enough resistances through most parts of the game.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]What tier do you play in again? Like, not even bashing. I just wanna know why you think you can get away with half this crap.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]I latetly visited lolking, just looking around what UOL Vizicsacsi is doing, then I found that game: http://www.lolking.net/replay/euw/1708922475 First, kinda funny that Vizicsacsi is still on the top over Alex Ich. Second thing I did see, Tear into Rod of Ages, seems to pretty interesting. Then I looked up statistics about Tear and found out, that it is even more popular on Ryze. The next funny thing I thought about, is, that I use the same combo on my AP Zed. Is that combo really that strong?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=GrandmasterD]I latetly visited lolking, just looking around what UOL Vizicsacsi is doing, then I found that game: http://www.lolking.net/replay/euw/1708922475 First, kinda funny that Vizicsacsi is still on the top over Alex Ich. Second thing I did see, Tear into Rod of Ages, seems to pretty interesting. Then I looked up statistics about Tear and found out, that it is even more popular on Ryze. The next funny thing I thought about, is, that I use the same combo on my AP Zed. Is that combo really that strong?[/quote] Yes.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Just played a little funny game, dat Mundo got stomped. http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/1720470430/23683545[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I kinda feel like [[aatrox]] did some heavy lifting in that lane.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]He ganked once, Nocturne ganked once, making it even. Then I just outlasted Mundo in a duel and killed him. The deciding point was a tp to bottom where I secured 2 kills. After that, even with his ult I could outduel Mundo pretty hard.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]My question is why was Mundo dueling you?[/quote]