Help With Zilean

[quote=TheNaethryn]I'm not really a new player, but I'm not really good either. I'm level 29 but i only play in short stints throughout the week so my meta game is pretty trash (no time to really practice). i used to play sion all the time and now I'm trying new champs but i have no idea who to pick. so i just throw caution to the wind and buy whatever champ and whatever runes he needs ( or at least i think he needs). i did it with amumu, my second champ, and it worked pretty well. but then i did it with zilean. I just went 1/8/0 and that was a better game. i have...no clue...at all what i am doing. first of all, i cannot for the life of me hit someone 2x with a bomb. its always two different minions or a champ and a minion or sometimes even myself or an ally when a melee champ is attacking them. and then the issue with his ult. I'm convinced its impossible. i am rarely in the right place, and when i am my teammates run out of its range right when they need it, and if all goes well i will cast it on the wrong person, or cast it on the person who should die, then they don't, and me and the other champ will die. any tips? because i put soooooo much ip into him i really don't want to throw in the towel but at the same time my match history is all losses or me feeding like crazy and just having 2 awesome teammates who some how win the game for me.[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]I can help you, we're already friends. :P For your specific problems I'm not sure. Sometimes I bomb the wrong target but not often. Might be more of a problem with your mouse than you. Also for being in the right place you need to just be map aware and see how your team is moving and ALWAYS be ready for teamfights. Zilean is nothing without his teammates. You could take teleport to help you be in the right places at the right times more often, and I would suggest taking flash if you're having trouble with dying. Flash out when they start to focus you in teamfights or use it to escape over walls.[/quote]

[quote=TheNaethryn]thanks for the post maybe you can school me like you did soo long ago lol. i feel bad though ruining your good reputation :( lol. Also i play treeline alot more that rift because i dont have many friends so is teleport still worth it? i usually go with clarvoyance and exhuast myself.[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]I think I would go CV Flash, but exhuast might be worthwhile since it's so strong on TT. I think here teleport isn't worth it, you are right.[/quote]

[quote=FantomFang]I don't play Treeline, but I can tell you from my limited experience (lol not even 30 yet) that I find Zilean works best with CV/Flash or Clarity/Flash, depending on whether you got friends around to take advantage of CV. 2x Bomb is a lot easier if you lead off with Time Warp as a slow, since it has the same range as a bomb. Just EQWQ, and E should be up again before it runs out (at high levels). Lower levels, just be content to leave it at that. Remember that you can also bomb your creeps and allies to deny last hits, or get you a lil extra range thanks to the AoE. Zil is awesome, so I hope you can better with him. There's a reason he gets banned so much. :D[/quote]