For those who need Ap and Ad

[quote=Mr. Feyd]A lot of players seem to think any hero who need to be played as both ap and ad are underpowered. Regardless to if you personal subscribe to this train of thought this could be a nifty item for them. Haunted whisper <-place holder name. What it does. Increases hp, Ad, ap. unique passive. adds 45 armor pen, 30 magic pen. Unique activation. For the next 10 seconds Swaps the values of champs magic and armor penetration. 80 second cd. Made by combining a Haunting guise and a Last whisper. cost in the range of 3300 Thoughts?[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]That's a nice role. I don't think we need to dedicate anymore items than what's already in the game towards hybrids.[/quote]

[quote=TheLyingCake]But we only have 5 items for hybrids. (if you include Nashor's Tooth and Malady.) It would be nice to have more choices.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=TheLyingCake] But we only have 5 items for hybrids. (if you include Nashor's Tooth and Malady.) It would be nice to have more choices. [/quote] What real "hybrid" characters are there though? 90% of "hybrids" can be built better as pure AD or AP.[/quote]

[quote=Trophycase]Sounds like a bit too much flat penetration on one item[/quote]

[quote=Mr. Feyd][quote=Trophycase] Sounds like a bit too much flat penetration on one item [/quote] actually I think i agree with ya. Probably should just keep the Penetration stats the same as last whisper and guise. The activated With any other pen i feel be significant enough... just have a the base ap ad and hp stats a little big > then the parts due to recipe costs?[/quote]

[quote=Dotter]It's also too cheap. Last Whisper: 2290 Haunting Guise: 1485 Total cost: 3775 That is without any recipe.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Maybe have it build from a [[Haunting Guise]] and [[The Brutalizer]] instead, since those have equal MrPen/ArPen. I think that might be more balanced.[/quote]

[quote=Mr. Feyd]Ha ha your right it is to cheep. I had this idea playing tf... I think i might have had the pickaxe when i put down the price for lastwhisper hence the gold being short. >< my attention to details can be lacking. Or i suck more at math then spelling. @bard. I like it. Brutalizer works better for this because it would bring cd to the table. rather have that over flat ad on any hybred champ any day. I will revamp this when i get some more time today.[/quote]

[quote=FiniteParadox][quote=Temzilla] 90% of "hybrids" can be built better as pure AD or AP. [/quote] ...Uh, what? I can build 100% of champs any way I want.[/quote]