2015 Mid Season Invitational

[quote=I want to be a Blitzball][quote=Vynertje] AHQ competing with EDG? What have you been smoking? I really need some of that. AHQ can perhaps upset once or twice but by no means pull off a close best-of-5.[/quote] I've been importing stuff from Taiwan. It makes you dream about a LMS team becoming Season 5 World Champs. You should try it. I think we're overrating/underrating AHQ. If AHQ gets ahead, they are than able to run away with it. Think about it. EDG likes to wait until late game, and often falls behind. AHQ can abuse that and close out the game. Against SKT they will more than likely falter, but you never know. They can at least put up a decent fight, and I think 3rd place is reasonable for them. EDG hasn't changed that much since 2014. Amazing ad carry, great support around him. Now they got a bigger mid carry. Have you seen some of their games? They let teams run over them before Deft decides to get a penta. SKT has proven their ability to completely control a game and not let go. I will miss the blindpick from LCK. No Faker LeBlanc (if anyone gives Faker LeBlanc I will scream). :([/quote]

[quote=BigBoxGamer]In my opinion, based on the last time TSM played on an international stage I would say that TSM is second best here. They destroyed CJ Entus and CJ Entus took two games off of SKT.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=BigBoxGamer]In my opinion, based on the last time TSM played on an international stage I would say that TSM is second best here. They destroyed CJ Entus and CJ Entus took two games off of SKT.[/quote] Why is everyone underestimating EDG so much? They have two ex-Samsung players (which were by a very significant margin the top-2 teams in Season 4) and were build around an already very solid roster. They beat a team with two other ex-Samsung White players to get here as well. While they aren't as good strategically as perhaps SKT, their individual skill is unmatched. I really don't see Santorin, Dyrus and Wildturtle holding their own against Deft, Clearlove and Koro.[/quote]

[quote=I want to be a Blitzball]TSM getting overrated right there. They beat CJ back at IEM, cool story. CJ would utterly crush TSM right now. IEM has zero indications. They beat a surging WE, who were only good at scrappy fights. I seriously got higher hopes for AHQ than TSM.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=I want to be a Blitzball]TSM getting overrated right there. They beat CJ back at IEM, cool story. CJ would utterly crush TSM right now.[/quote] In a best-of-5 I don't think TSM would win, but in general they still have a pretty decent shot at taking down CJ. It's not like CJ suddenly improved a lot in two months or TSM got worse. I'd say its 60-40 in CJ's favour if they were to go at it again. [quote]I seriously got higher hopes for AHQ than TSM.[/quote] ...[/quote]

[quote=I want to be a Blitzball][quote=Vynertje][quote=BigBoxGamer]In my opinion, based on the last time TSM played on an international stage I would say that TSM is second best here. They destroyed CJ Entus and CJ Entus took two games off of SKT.[/quote] Why is everyone underestimating EDG so much? They have two ex-Samsung players (which were by a very significant margin the top-2 teams in Season 4) and were build around an already very solid roster. They beat a team with two other ex-Samsung White players to get here as well. While they aren't as good strategically as perhaps SKT, their individual skill is unmatched. I really don't see Santorin, Dyrus and Wildturtle holding their own against Deft, Clearlove and Koro.[/quote] EDG are really good, no doubt. But you have to remember, they won vs LGD because they waited. SKT will punish their lack of early game focus. AHQ are underdogs, but they also got the stronger early. Give them a lead and they can close out vs EDG. EDG can't only go late, it's their biggest asset but also a downfall.[/quote]

[quote=I want to be a Blitzball][quote]I seriously got higher hopes for AHQ than TSM.[/quote] [quote]...[/quote] Do you want some of that Taiwanese stuff? It widens your perspective. Do you remember the rose-tinted glasses from worlds? This gives you the same feel.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=I want to be a Blitzball][quote=Vynertje][quote=BigBoxGamer]In my opinion, based on the last time TSM played on an international stage I would say that TSM is second best here. They destroyed CJ Entus and CJ Entus took two games off of SKT.[/quote] Why is everyone underestimating EDG so much? They have two ex-Samsung players (which were by a very significant margin the top-2 teams in Season 4) and were build around an already very solid roster. They beat a team with two other ex-Samsung White players to get here as well. While they aren't as good strategically as perhaps SKT, their individual skill is unmatched. I really don't see Santorin, Dyrus and Wildturtle holding their own against Deft, Clearlove and Koro.[/quote] EDG are really good, no doubt. But you have to remember, they won vs LGD because they waited. SKT [s]will[/s] may punish their lack of early game focus. [/quote] This is completely true bar the 'will'. LGD is a really good team with very aggressive players as well and even though probably not as good as SKT overall, it doesn't mean that SKT is just going to walk over EDG in the early game. Also, that doesn't mean TSM suddenly has the edge over EDG.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]TSM is not over rated here most people seem be putting them second from what i see and not just "tsm fans" most people saying this is na's best shot and tsm is best team in west.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Well they did finish first in the NA split and are the only team in NA that are competing in MSI, so there's that. Are they better than Fnatic? Well considering they play each other in the very first round........ I'll hedge my bets.[/quote]