When i've read the title i was saying "seriously man?" But after reading and thinking on this guide, i've said "absolutely this guy is a genius" :). But i think that a trinity force is maybe better than a Luden's echo... Maybe i'm wrong but gives damage and atk spd so the auto attacks can be powerful, mana and ability power make the possibility to cast 2 more q with only a bit low damage and gives crit... Crit on Bard guys :Q so it's only a suggest from a noob but consider it ;) gl & hf :)

I got logged in to say what Gnug did: In my experience, AP isn't worth anything on him. His best damage is maxed Q mid-game, and/or auto with lots of chimes

That said, this might not be an awful idea, but I'd go with magic pen, and I'd wonder how attack speed scales on him

I would definately not go any AP on him. His AP scaling is worst in league! He has utility and some healing, that's it. Insane ganks possible with backup.

You are completely correct. That was a mistake on my part when making the guide. Good catch. I have updated the guide to fix that problem. :)

Why use CD marks and MP Glyphs? Why not the other way around? Then the stats are higher, right?

Great guide man tryed it out went 17-5 thanks.