Official Mobafire PC thread

[quote=Vynertje]I completely agree I could and should been a bit more clear with the numbers (although I did not mean to imply the difference was 5 degrees at the 7 vs 12v test by any means, I just worded it a bit clumsily), but my point still stands: the part you quoted was a response to "[the R5 has] great airflow"; which obviously isn't true. The airflow is great considering the noise levels, but the cooling results themselves fall in the bottom segments of the charts, end of discussion. You can let the Enthoo Pro's fans (of which the 200mm fan should be restricted) run at 7v and still achieve similar results to the R5. For the record, I completely agree with the recommendation of the R5 (just not the great airflow part); I think it should definitely be on your short-list, no matter what kind of case you're looking for. However, it's completely bullshit (and biased) to tell me to stop recommending the Enthoo Pro, as the reviews and user experiences have been overwhelmingly positive: HardwareCanucks (which I think make great case reviews) titled it as [i]#1 case of 2014[/i], LinusTechTips said [i]"any gamer or enthousiast with a one hundred dollar budget [...] should basically pick up an Enthoo Pro"[/i] and finally, the site I always use for my tech resources hardware.info has recommended it for all their high-end build guides since its release. Your main argument (or the way I interpret it) is size due to things you consider impractical (5.25" bay which can be removed just like the R5's, PSU cover) but do not hurt either unless you're really finicky about size. In fact, I do like the PSU cover and most people seem to do so, it makes cable management easier and especially when you're used sleeved cables like I do. It's completely fine if you have a different opinion, but don't invalidate someone else's just because you disagree on some points. In short, both cases are great and should be on your short-list if you're looking at a case in the ~100€ range. Your opinion won't change that.[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend][quote=TheRedPenguin]FUK IT. Let him buy a crt tv.[/quote][/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Vynertje]"[the R5 has] great airflow"; which obviously isn't true. The airflow is great considering the noise levels, but the cooling results themselves fall in the bottom segments of the charts, end of discussion.[/quote]Dude.. What the heck are you doing?.. You just keep making mistakes. Take another look at the graphs. It's not even close to the bottom.. R5 is ranked 8th on average of the 19 cases in the graph where it is compared to performance cases. And 5th on average compared with 25 silent cases. And that's ignoring the noise level, which graphs it incidentally tops (it's the most quiet) at 12V both compared to performance cases AND silent cases (2/19 and 6/25 at 7V). In fact, looking at these numbers [b]I'm pretty sure R5 has the best cooling performance per noise of all the cases they have in those lists[/b]. [quote]it's completely bullshit (and biased) to tell me to stop recommending the Enthoo Pro[/quote]It is not bullshit. It is a bit biased however. I am a sucker for efficient, practical design (cooling/build efficiency), but [b]I am not biased toward specific products or brands[/b], like you are. As for why it isn't bullshit: Enthoo Pro has a lot of disadvantages compared to R5, with only one real advantage: cooling per money. Cooling per noise is worse, as evidenced in the source you provided. [quote]as the reviews and user experiences have been overwhelmingly positive[/quote]correlation =/= causation It is a silly argument. [quote]Your main [[[problem with the case]]] is size due to things you consider impractical [[[...]]] but do not hurt either unless you're really finicky about size.[/quote]Not the main, but it is one of them. I'm not "finicky" about size, but if useless functionality makes something larger then I'm obviously gonna count that as a negative.. The other big thing is that cooling performance per noise is worse compared to R5, especially when optimizing airflow. [quote]I do like the PSU cover[[[...]]] it makes cable management easier[/quote]False. It does not make cable management easier, in fact, it introduces an extra step of removing and re-installing the cover when actually trying to manage said cables, with zero impact on the rest of the management. That would logically mean worse cable management.. Like it all you want, but don't come up with bullshit reasons like cable management, because it has zero practical benefits, the only benefit is of the aesthetic sort. If you like how it looks then just say that instead, because that's actually true.[/quote]

[quote=mastrer1000]Just for curiosity's sake, what do you guys think about the mastercase pro 5?[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=mastrer1000]Just for curiosity's sake, what do you guys think about the mastercase pro 5?[/quote] Decent case overall, but I wouldn't recommend it over other options until more customisation options are released. The base kit is not bad at all, but it lacks distinguishing factors imo.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=mastrer1000]Just for curiosity's sake, what do you guys think about the mastercase pro 5?[/quote]Looks highly meh.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]ok idk what's wrong with my pc halp so when i try streaming it always has this frequent green flicker on games like osu and minecraft. it happened with osu in a local recording as well so i think its something wrong with my pc? i tried both borderless / fullscreen and there was no difference i don't think it happens with league but i may be wrong[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Updated any program/driver lately?[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]don't think so. Streaming has never been smooth since the start either for league. always ~ 60 fps and it sometimes went below that too idk whats wrong :([/quote]

[quote=Malin]Is there anyway my hardware can limit my internet connection or is it possible for a router to have some kind of "max" setting.[/quote]