7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=I want to be a Blitzball]Now, I'm actually wondering if Fervor or Thunderlord's is the strongest choice on Corki and Ezreal.[/quote] Thunderlord's on Corki because you get access to the hybrid pen mastery. Maybe Ez too but it wouldn't be as strong so it's not as clear cut.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]On Ezreal it is a question about earlygame vs lategame and which support you have.[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri]Hey, Toxicarbon, I think you're over thinking precise placements in tiers and within tiers. If somebody's listed in the first spot in tier 2, that means they're almost the last spot in tier 1. Whoever makes the tier list (in this case H4x) has to make the cutoff line somewhere. [quote=Toxicarbon]Tops, I'm shocked you disrespect Trundle, Gangplank, and Singed since they're the highest win rate Tops.[/quote] I'm not sure how listing [[trundle]] at the top of tier 2 is "disrespecting" him. That means that he's very good, but a situational pick -- "Situational. Can be better than t1 picks in the right comp." Picking him depends a lot on matchups and your own team comp, but H4x is saying that he's very good. Similarly, [[gangplank]] is listed a little lower in tier 2, but still in the top half of tier two, which means that he can be very good in certain situations. Your comment on [[singed]] is kind of laughable, though. He might have a high win rate but a low pick rate. That means that the people who do play him are likely experts on him and pick him only when the matchups and team comps are perfect for him. In most situations, though, he won't be good to use. [quote]Supports, Really surprised about Bard not being at the higher plus Brand and Lulu. They buffed the AP support item so it's absolute torture playing against anyone who does damage. I think at least a few dmg supports should be put in tier one. Namely, Brand + Lulu. I also think Morgana should be raised because she counters every fkn champ in the game. Lol :P[/quote] Again, [[bard]], [[brand]], [[lulu]], and [[morgana]] are listed as tier 2 -- "Situational. Can be better than t1 picks in the right comp." You can't just throw everyone into tier 1 and expect the list to be useful. [quote]Junglers, I despise Rammus and I think he's Tier 1.[/quote] I love [[rammus]], but tier 2 ("situational") is right. If he's against a heavy AD team, he's great. But if he's against a team with extra AP and/or plenty of tankiness of their own, he lacks in power. He also lacks the early counter jungling power of the tier 1 group. [quote]Graves is highest win rate Jungler and should be tier 1.[/quote] Again, he's listed as the highest tier 2, which means he's hardly being disrespected. Whether he's good depends a lot on your team comp, which makes him situational. [quote]I'm appalled that you have Volibear in Tier 3 because he is top 2 junglers right now (In all ELO's not just higher).[/quote] I might partly agree with you here. The preseason changes added a lot of hidden power to [[volibear]]. He shouldn't be in tier 1, but I agree that he shouldn't be at the bottom of tier 3.[/quote]

[quote=RottedApples][quote=Toxicarbon][quote=PsiGuard][quote=Shuru]From someone whose never been master tier in his life you talk a big game. I think it's time you slow your roll buddy. Let's not derail the thread further, focus on tier discussion and nothing else please.[/quote] What he said. This thread is for questions for H4x or discussion about champion strength, not other stuff.[/quote] Where exactly does it say this thread is for H4X. I'm respectable and if I shouldn't be posting here, I can stop. I thought this was just a public forum where people go to discuss things. @Shuru, I've been a coach, not a player. I played a minimum games to get placed and get mid-diamond and studied Dopa + Faker + Bjergsen for a very long time.[/quote] tell me, who made this thread...[/quote]

[quote=Zyad][quote=Mooninites]@Toxicarbon In reference to your question: yes I am a virgin. I wear a chastity belt at all times to protect myself from the AIDS that you project onto this community[/quote] oh boy +Rep @Toxicarbon dude, you are almost doing yourself spam. I don't know if you are a troll or just want free advertice... __________________________________________________________________ So h4x, how hard you think the nerfs are going to hit elise?[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]I can confirm that Toxicarbon is helping me with coaching right now, don't be so hard on him.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=Toxicarbon] Record one of your games and email it to me @ xToxicarbonx@gmail.com. I will schedule a time to coach you.[/quote] You do know that Haxdefender's played in the NACS, right? That aside, thanks for offering to coach :)[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Toxicarbon][quote=Thalia Kael]Add me on NA and I'll set up a meeting. KefkaZix is my name[/quote] Record one of your games and email it to me @ xToxicarbonx@gmail.com. I will schedule a time to coach you.[/quote] It appears I have made a grave mistake. In attempting to email you for lessons so I can become the next dopa or bjergsen from his holiness, I accidentally copy and pasted your email into my craiglist listing. If you happen to get any emails about a craigslist advertisement for Men seeking Groups of Men in The Castro or San Francisco area can you tell them to contact me via mobafire? Regrettable mistake, sorry for the confusion <Removed>[/quote]

[quote=utopus]LOL Is moon going to win best quote of the year AGAIN? It's only January and it's safe to say that there won't be any other contenders for this forum award[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=utopus]LOL Is moon going to win best quote of the year AGAIN? It's only January and it's safe to say that there won't be any other contenders for this forum award[/quote] I'm glad that when it comes to Mobafire we still love to kneejerk react to anyone we don't agree with, label them as trolls and go out of our way to make them feel unwelcome and made fun about.[/quote]