Is Spirit Visage really that necessary for Dr....

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Adonikam] Spirit Visage is core because it synergizes well with EVERYTHING Mundo buys. [/quote] That way, Mundo can go where he pleases better than ever before![/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]thats why I get a giants belt = sunfire... before i get visage :)... increases my ultimate regen and also provides me a healthy farm[/quote]

[quote=5forwards]If you are building a tank mundo(or even an offtank),I think you really need it at start.Not only will it boost your ulti,it will also give you that +30 MR that you need as a tank. If you are building a dps mundo,you could get it a bit later or not get it at all,but still I can't say for sure since I haven't tried it or tested it.[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]Yeah I use it on my offtank Mundo. It's such a good early game item imo.[/quote]

[quote=eal.amir]I still don't understand why people think that a SV is a better early game item than HoG or GB. Other than the little bit of extra magic resistance the 15% extra regen is very minimal, the GB not only gives more HP, but can also be turned into a more useful Warmogs, Sunfire, or Frozen Mallet(for offtank). To put it simply, 15% early game for mundo is miniscule without lots of other items to enhance it.[/quote]

[quote=mobrebel]The reason people get it first is because it is so cheap and effective for their ultimate. Later on, it enhances the health regeneration that, hopefully, you get. This allows for Mundo to get a ton of utility out of a early SV.[/quote]

[quote=eal.amir]Sigh, still don't understand this argument. From what I'm hearing, the justifications that seem to be repeated are: 1. It is effective on Mundo's Ultimate.--Not really, 15% increase is only 100-200 more hp over 12 seconds. A GB/HoG gives more from the very start. Having pure hp is preferable to having regen that can be cut off with Ignite-like spells. (Imagine a 4-bar twitch with 2 regrowth pendants going against a mundo with 7 bars). 2. But it's cheap!!--Not really, 1110 gold is cheaper than 1550 gold. 1650 gold that gives you 1 gold/sec is cheaper than 1550 gold within 2 minutes. 3. But it doesn't just help his ult...it has great SYNERGY with other items!!--True, yet with this in mind, what's the point in getting Spirit Visage early on? You only see SV pull ahead of pure HP items with a 3000+HP Mundo or one with 75 hp regen. Not much point in getting ketchup before you get french fries. 4. But it also gives you 30 magic resistance.--This is the only reason that remotely justifies getting a Spirit Visage. However, this is only taking off about 10% off magic damage, so unless you are getting ripped apart by a team of nukers in early game, cheaper pure hp still wins.[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]Having pure health in the start is much better for mundo, many carries cannot deal with the huge hp bars at the start... The item is reasonably expensive (spirit visage).. and after the Ulti nerf... Giants belt > spirit visage is starting to really shine...[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]I don't see why you don't just get Spirit Visage AND a Giants Belt lol EDIT: Spirit Visage works on the health return from cleaver aswell[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]What i see he makes the point that rushing SV is bad, and rushing other items like GB is better, don't think he means you shuld not buy SV on mundo[/quote]