Lane Udyr

[quote=UltimateHavok]I never see Udyr lane, actually I never see much of Udyr at all. However I'm a newer level 30 with only 200 or so wins and don't really play ranked yet. But lately with the nerf to Udyr in the recent patch and after hearing about some pro team doing good with solo top Udyr I think it was, how viable and/or good is lane Udyr? How good is the champ comparatively to other champs? How good is his jungle now? And are there any good lane Udyr guides anyone knows of I can take a look at?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Udyr used to be an excellent solo top with the wriggles bug. That being fixed hurt his solo top prowess and this other nerf hit him harder still. He's still a decent solo top but, he has to play really passively and he can't win his lane without good ganks from the jungler.[/quote]

[quote=UltimateHavok]What was the Wriggles bug? I bought him a couple days ago so I could buy runes for him to jungle and learn how, but I've been hearing a lot about how his jungle isn't as strong as it once was.. Is Udyr still a viable and good champ to use? How is his jungle now?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]His jungle didn't change much. It's a little less safe now but, w/e. The wriggles bug made him heal off the wriggles proc so, he would be healing stupid amounts of health and mana off a single creep wave.[/quote]

[quote=UltimateHavok]What do you mean..? The 18 Life Steal from wriggles? How would getting that be a bug? I think I'm misunderstanding..[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]It has a chance to do 500 damage to minions. Turtle's wording, and it's intent, was that it would heal off any damage you did. You would heal a percentage of that 500 that you did. So, you would be healing little bit more than 50 plus the amount that you would heal from the lifesteal. It would also give you mana back for more shielding.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]They nerfed his life and mana gain on Turtle stance a lot, so now he's not very good in the lane anymore.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]He's still very strong in the lane. Just look at Rainman's solo top Udyr during Gamescom.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210][quote=Wintermond] He's still very strong in the lane. Just look at Rainman's solo top Udyr during Gamescom. [/quote] They used a earlier client at Gamescom that did not feature the nerf. His turtle has been taken down, but I still think he has potential. Depends on who he is fighting.[/quote]

[quote=bearsquared]The biggest problem with Lane Udyr is that he has very little ways to harass (if any) without really putting himself in harm's way. He is a very viable jungler still.[/quote]