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[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=Luther3000] [quote=ZioSerpe] I think aspd runes are a waste on some junglers as they still attack fast and don't really need em to jungle or invade I prefer ar pen marks on WW for early ganking power and lategame arpen, aspd are too focused on jungling per se, but early game ganks are what gives you the true advantage. [/quote] You should probably pick another jungler then, Warwick has horrible early game ganks. They only become godly once he hits 6. =D [/quote] Ok let's stop trying to teach jungle to one that jungles since beta. WW ganks ain't bad pre lvl 6 Thy just hardly result in a kill if enemy team isn't horribly overextended. What you don't get is that a gank is not only made to get kills, even making enemies waste summoners or getting forced to b or not farm because low health is a succesfull gank. Yeah at lvl 6 WW gank is a sure kill combined with a burst, but if you think only a kill is a good gank you should not jungle.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Compared to junglers like Xin or Riven, they are bad. All Warwick really has is red buff and a move speed boost IF you can get them below 50%. Any jungler with CC on a normal skill outclasses him in early ganks. That's not to say you shouldn't try to gank at all before 6 though, you can still disrupt lanes, waste people's flash and so on. You just won't get a kill unless you're really lucky, the enemy makes a mistake, or your ally in the lane is someone with amazing CC and burst.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Agree with both of you. It's still worth it to gank with WW pre six, even though the ganks are underwhelming or perhaps even bad xD[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=DuffTime] I've heard it was 12 ArP. I just ran the 15 cause 10% AS looks like a good number and it felt smooth in my test runs and then strong in my games so I kept it :P[/quote] Stonewall runs 17.66ArP on WW (mastery+runes). About 15 is optimal when doing lots of small camps. If you're doing the standard path (taking red and blue) you can use up to 25 ArP, but above that you'll be wasting time.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=ZioSerpe] [quote=Luther3000] You should probably pick another jungler then, Warwick has horrible early game ganks.[/quote] WW ganks ain't bad pre lvl 6[/quote] They're shit. If he doesn't have red buff I'm 100% certain that ganking is useless.[/quote]