Fiddle in the Middle?

[quote=caucheka]maxing dark wind in lane is for the harass. at champ level 5, you can deal 105 or 210 (or if lucky 315) damage (not counting ap or enemy mr) at the same level, max drain will do 120 damage per second but its easily interruptable and relies on the enemy staying in the max range (hint enemies will walk away when you start to drain them) the only thing i hate about lane fiddle is that, unlike annie or karthus, his spells are worthless for farming (e will never do enough damage to one hit kill a minion, you might be able to get 2 kills off it but thats worthless.) and his ult obviously has way to large a cd.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]yeah his old Dark WInd was fun, though: bounce 5 times on lv1 *sigh* the good ol' times. But regarding Drain, even if its easy to interrupt you need it to stay on lane, otherwise you wont make it against other ranged and you'll also towerhug until DWs ready again... Easily outzoned i guess. Maxing DW first on mid.. seems like a worse Kassa to me.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]There are stronger mid champs than fiddle. I agree with Duff, go for Revolver later (or skip it entirely). You need the HP/Mana boost from RoA. [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] > [[Rabadon's Deathcap]] because Fiddle throws himself into the fray; and a still unchanged loop hole in un-channeled ultis is Zonya's allows the effects to continue. Zonya's will force people to eat your ulti because their knee jerk reaction is to focus the squishy AP champ that just appeared into the middle of their group. That will never change because the team comp is different, especially if the Fiddlesticks is fed and owning hard. Other than that the build looks good to me. Abyssal Scepter is almost a core item on him because of the synergy with his passive. Rabadon's is just moar damage.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]im not saying to not get drain, im just saying that e is a priority in laning. and no thats not a loophole in zhonyas, anything thats not a channel will not be interrupted if you activate zhonyas[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]It is a loop hole when you're against it. "Unable to take action" Sure technically speaking the action has already been taken but the language could still be interpreted to mean that action refers to any and all forms and/or tenses (past/present/future). The ability to deal damage and be "invulnerable" to damage all at once is an imbalance in itself. I'm not saying I don't like to use the active to take advantage of that; simply stating that by a less loosely interpreted definition it's imbalanced. EDIT: Or at the very least the tool tip can be amended to reflect the nature of the item. "Stasis" which does not hinder the use of previously used actions IE. Non channeled ultimates.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]think of it like a stun that makes you unable to take damage. even when stunned fiddles ult is still dealing damage, and morganas ult is still bound. for example.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I'm not against the result when I'm using a champ who benefits from it. Just stating the inaccuracy of the tool tip in my eyes. I use it on Cass at times. Sooo fun to let an AD carry kill themselves in my poison ^_^.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]huehuehue[/quote]

[quote=Rozsud3k]If you were getting mid, was there a bid for it?[/quote]

[quote=6PoolHater]Level up [[drain]] first, then [[dark wind]] for maximum damage in mid. Fiddle is an amazing ganker so when you have opportunity, you can slip from mid and unleash the crow on top or bot lane.[/quote]