Mid/Jungler Combos

[quote=DuffTime]Ryze damage not big o_o Have you ever played with a full mana page Ryze? o_O Maokai and Ryze = Shaco and Ryze early, but Maokai's ulti is better later. Besides, Shaco is perma ban.[/quote]

[quote=TheWeekndOVOXO][quote=Pølsemanden] [quote=DuffTime] *Facedesk* [/quote] why is shaco not a better pair with a ryze than Maokai? Ryze's lvl 2-3 damage isn't that big, maokai's is decent shaco with redbuff is out of the question the larger of the 3. After ryze's cage u're gonna have a 100% chance of a fear from boxes. Meaning that shaco on a ryze lane will be offering the same CC as maokai level 3. (also shaco often starts red, maokai starts blue) Ryze mid wants ganks early and he wants them often! But what about level 4-5-6? U will still have a box with a bigger fear, Maokai's damage will maybe outburst a shaco's but can dodge wards maokai needs flash to be up to do so. Ryze mid wants ganks early and he wants them often. Shaco offers more of that than maokai. [/quote] And tell me about it when one game, Shaco isn't banned.[/quote]

[quote=example1013][quote=DuffTime] Ryze damage not big o_o Have you ever played with a full mana page Ryze? o_O Maokai and Ryze = Shaco and Ryze early, but Maokai's ulti is better later. Besides, Shaco is perma ban. [/quote] ^[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I love people who think Maokai can't gank mid often. Long distance, [b]non-failing[/b] roots. Can be repeated every few seconds with it's CD. He's good at it. He can even get boots of mobility if he feels like it. Oddone gets mobil boots sometimes as well.[/quote]

[quote=Shak3y]Blitz mid, ali jungle.... troll team ofc. But you know it would work Srsly thou: rammus + rumble or kennen. Just trust me :)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]You can't say it's a troll team as a debunker for when people wanna call you out and then after that say you know it would work to boot l0l. That would be soooooo bad! xP[/quote]

[quote=Shak3y][quote=DuffTime] You can't say it's a troll team as a debunker for when people wanna call you out and then after that say you know it would work to boot l0l. That would be soooooo bad! xP [/quote] You missed my point. I'm aware that an AP would just overpower ali or blitz mid. But can you imgine if ali ganks level 2 with a lvl 2 blitz n baby sits the lane. It would work in that respect. Don't think that I don't know the flaws in that combo. I just said that one as a kinda lulz. Nothing too serious duff. ^^[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]The problem is that your yank is blocked by minions and the mid lane is a straight line, which makes a bit difficult to land it. I'm aware it's not serious, but you said "You know it would work" and I don't think it would l0l[/quote]

[quote=Freddy Shopan]better to just run your blitz/ali bot trololol.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Blitz Ali has the same problem of yank being creep blocked. It's reliant on your opponents failure. Jarvan Ali however or Jarvan Leona.. :3[/quote]