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^ No, I wanted people to actually try it for themselves and see if it works. I opened this thread to know if it was a good idea or not yes, don't think I'm not aware that thousands of other players have come down to the conclusion that lifesteal is worthless on Swain. I'm simply trying to create some thinking around the matter, but it's actually you who completely neglect it.
Oh, and I won all those Ranked games I told you about. I'm playing in ELO 1200-1400, and my teammates said the exact same thing: Beginning: "Troll swain?!?!?!" End: "EPIC SWAIN!! :D"
League of Legends is such a game that builds differ from player to player, because they have different playstyle. I can manage both autoattacking and using skills on Swain, therefore I get a hybrid item which also makes last hitting much easier. My burst is good, and I don't drop off late-game at all.
Oh, and I won all those Ranked games I told you about. I'm playing in ELO 1200-1400, and my teammates said the exact same thing: Beginning: "Troll swain?!?!?!" End: "EPIC SWAIN!! :D"
League of Legends is such a game that builds differ from player to player, because they have different playstyle. I can manage both autoattacking and using skills on Swain, therefore I get a hybrid item which also makes last hitting much easier. My burst is good, and I don't drop off late-game at all.
There is no victory without humility.
first:
Elo 1,2k-1,4k = worth mentioning? Not in the least.
second:
You "wanted" to know if it was a good idea or not? rly? You actually care for the opinion of others? Doesn't seem like it.
Ppl told you what they think about it, because they know, because they tested it, or simply because they can use their brain in combination with logic/math, YOU just cast it aside.
In the end the only narrow-minded person around is you.
Your sig already tells everything ppl need to know about you, though.
+1 for viper459, qft.
Elo 1,2k-1,4k = worth mentioning? Not in the least.
second:
You "wanted" to know if it was a good idea or not? rly? You actually care for the opinion of others? Doesn't seem like it.
Ppl told you what they think about it, because they know, because they tested it, or simply because they can use their brain in combination with logic/math, YOU just cast it aside.
In the end the only narrow-minded person around is you.
Your sig already tells everything ppl need to know about you, though.
+1 for viper459, qft.
You don't want discussion, you just want everyone to mindlessly agree with you or not post at all. You already made up your mind about it before you even posted the thread, so why did you even bother?
It's the same as in the Warwick thread, you just ignore any points proving it's sub-optimal and go on doing it anyway.
To be blunt, you're exactly the kind of person I don't want to be a Scout because I'm almost certain you'll give scout points to any old **** as long as it posts a picture of a good score.
It's the same as in the Warwick thread, you just ignore any points proving it's sub-optimal and go on doing it anyway.
To be blunt, you're exactly the kind of person I don't want to be a Scout because I'm almost certain you'll give scout points to any old **** as long as it posts a picture of a good score.
Luther3000 wrote:
You don't want discussion, you just want everyone to mindlessly agree with you or not post at all. You already made up your mind about it before you even posted the thread, so why did you even bother?
It's the same as in the Warwick thread, you just ignore any points proving it's sub-optimal and go on doing it anyway.
To be blunt, you're exactly the kind of person I don't want to be a Scout because I'm almost certain you'll give scout points to any old **** as long as it posts a picture of a good score.
It does seem that way..
I'm a strong independent black mage who don't need no mana.
Well, this thread will be closed, I can't stand personal attacks. And you're wrong in every way when it comes to me. Sure I can go back to the old ways of doing things, I'm not saying what you're applying here is bs or anything, I simply can't understand why you just thrash on everything I say without even trying it out.
Accusing me of not listening is what's complete bs, anyway, stop responding to this thread, this is getting too personal for my liking.
Accusing me of not listening is what's complete bs, anyway, stop responding to this thread, this is getting too personal for my liking.
There is no victory without humility.
Kurt_Ottman wrote:
Well, this thread will be closed, I can't stand personal attacks. And you're wrong in every way when it comes to me. Sure I can go back to the old ways of doing things, I'm not saying what you're applying here is bs or anything, I simply can't understand why you just thrash on everything I say without even trying it out.
Accusing me of not listening is what's complete bs, anyway, stop responding to this thread, this is getting too personal for my liking.
As far as I there are three threads that have gone this way that involve you. One on Shaco, One on WW, and now this one.
People's main problem with your claims (on all of those threads) as far as I can tell, is a lack of proof. As I said before, pics/video or it didn't happen... Preferably video.
Also you're flying against the wind when it comes to mathematical proofs, which is never a good idea. If you can produce accurate maths that proves something, then maybe people will listen.
But anecdotal evidence, which is all you've offered so far, isn't worth much I'm afraid. Post some videos up and then maybe you'll get a better response.
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Says the current meta :)
The idea of "the Meta" died when M5 entered the pro gaming spotlight imo. That and arguing over one item for one character hardly qualifies as changing the meta.
That's the point, if I listened to you guys, nothing new would happen ever. I've tried the old ways, and I like to find new ways to go about things. Don't think I've never tried boots and three pots, I just don't feel they compliment what I'm trying to achieve here :)
opinion =/= mathematically inferior
what you're doing is simply inferior. if you don't want to understand it, have this thread in general discussion and not in theory craft forums. among the millions of people who play LoL, the millions of different build, there will always be those better than yours, so there is always room to improve.
it's kind of like making excuses, blaming your team and saying ''BG'' after you lose. you invalidate it in your own mind, basically un-motivating yourself to learn and improve - if every time someone says 'your idea is ****' you just think 'he's just saying that because he's close-minded' or 'this is not constructive so i'll disregard it', your build will never improve.
and one would assume you want to play better, so we try to nicely tell you your idea won't work. people even explain to you why, but apparently you don't care. so why open the thread? did you just want 10 people to say 'good plan bro, you're awesome!' ?