Who is The AD Carry & Physical Tank All at...

[quote=LogicJones]I have done some thinking and Fiora, is an AD Carry that can build Tank and still carry as much damage as an AD Carry Throughout most the game....I have gotten her to 300 AD around 180 Defense and 120 Magic Resist....Now with her damage come from burst of speed and Her counter move...she is easy the best 1v1 champ in the game....So I believe she belongs in solo top...now you may say Wait....She gets Killed by most solo top champs cause she is so squishy....and you would be right...but in a team comp set for her She can Carry the game...example.....She is Your Offtank DPS...with around 270+ AD and 160+ Defense Physical 120+ Magical (this is all Late Mid game stats and 100 Percent possible but it takes around 10k farm. which is around what you have around the End Game period....this is assuming the jungler babysits her like he would need to to ensure she doesnt die...this would mean a specific jungler and a specific set of bans....but now its important team fights and the enemy team has to pick.....AD Carry or Kill the Offtank That does just a little less damage than the AD Carry...while who do they pick...and this is where her advantage is...if they focus her a quick ult puts there team out of focus and allows for her to land and get off a few (meaning a lot) auto attacks before they re click her...to kill her or save the ult for the middle to end of the team fight to heal ur health almost full with BT, and destory the remaining champs on there team which most likly be the Offtanks...and up against must offtanks she will win...unless we are talking about Olaf, Malphate (however you spell it) so now your AD carry hasnt been focuse your offtank has lived or died either way she does her job massive damage ...leaving the enemy to pick between the offtank and the AD carry with leaves your AD carry such as KOG who would be the best pair with her top....or Ezreal to Do some extra damage while avoiding the fight all together....[/quote]

[quote=EnmaDaiO]although stats are important because that's what makes a champ stronger it's really about team comp and team fights (or early snowballs) Also when u achieve 300 AD (without baron buff) i can assume u have very minimal attack speed if u do have 300 AD with decent attack speed then u must be fed out of your mind problem is fiora (in my humble opinion) is a very very weak laner she will be outmatched in most situations at TOP of course pre 6 and at level 6 she will be strong like real strong that's when u can snowball UP but in most cases u won't win ur lane FIORA IS decent butttttt MEH[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Late game Fiora dmg out put can be even high then tryns. Problem is just that she is very squishe early one and her build in sustain is not enough to keep her in lane. Most dominante top laners will push her out and make her fall behind. Also her ulti is a bit buggy. You can get hit by all sorts of stuff while in it.[/quote]

[quote=LogicJones]Actually I have been hit by stuff doing her Ult...Which is REALLY REALLY NOT Coool...and also...in regards to the attack speed... When I say Tanky I mean...Wits End Being a Core Item...Hexdrinker Being a Core Item...FHeart Being a Core Item and her DPS with Wits End ...reaches High Enough For her E To bring it High enough to Not Need A lot of Attack Speed items...Yes i really agree with her lane phase being really really weak...I do ...and as i said team comp does matter...but I do believe a baby sat top lane will result in her being far enough ahead (because she snowballs hard) that after one or two successful ganks ...if they dont have a top lane that can easy farm to get back in the game then they are out of luck...and i have noticed that after the lane she farms so well ....E and W being her main source of Farm ...I just really thing she can dominate ...even though CC is the king of the game right now...CC can be countered ... I just think she is a HIGH RISK/ HIGH REWARD CHAMP...but that ULT needs to be fixed ASAP[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=LaronX] Late game Fiora dmg out put can be even high then tryns. Problem is just that she is very squishe early one and her build in sustain is not enough to keep her in lane. Most dominante top laners will push her out and make her fall behind. Also her ulti is a bit buggy. You can get hit by all sorts of stuff while in it. [/quote] she's actually probably one of the hardest champions in the game to 1v1 trade with. If she builds sustain you pretty much can't trade with her. Her [[Riposte]]'s passive is incredible strong in addition to it's active. post-6 you can't really go in for the kill unless your significantly ahead of her because her ultimate will give her a huge advantage. I don't think she's weak in lane at all, infact she's probably one of the strongest laners when itemized correctly[/quote]

[quote=LogicJones]Yes I agree her Riposte Skill Gives her the ability To Buy a Tanky item in place of a Damage item to give her more sustain...[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]I actually feel she's one of the strongest solo tops in the game atm, and the fact that her kit is balanced means she isn't going to get nerfed any time soon. [[riposte]] is just ridiculous in trading, which is the main reason why she's strong there.[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]Im not impressed by [[fiora]]s. Ive seen them beat by alot of people top simply because early game they DO have to be babysat by the jungler alot. And what you are suggesting, building a solotop as an offtank dps... hmm. real revelation. Thats like suggesting jungle [[Nocturne]] build [[Frozen Mallet]].[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]Oh, and she is BY NO MEANS the best 1v1 in the game. Ive personally beaten foira's 1v1 with characters such as [[mordekaiser]], [[maokai]], [[master yi]], and ive seen them get absolutely dominated by, say, [[shyvana]] and [[udyr]]. The only time Fiora is really useful is when she is ulting. Survive her ult, and she is dead. Plush, while she is ulting, just run under your tower, and stun or slow her when she comes out of ult.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]She's the best 1v1 for 3 seconds (assuming she is uninterrupted by CC). Then she gets destroyed by any other strong duelist.[/quote]