A New Metagame - The Counter-Game

[quote=Zoto888]So, I've been playing around with idea for a while, and I think I've got it to a stage where it may be slightly viable. The only thing is - it requires common sense :o. So, how about this: Anti-Mage Mid: Pretty Standard, but quite important. This would include champions like Talon and Kassadin Mage Bot - This is here to counter their carry, and shut them down so that they cannot do their job. I put a mage here as they tend to get strong once they hit six, at which point they can just burst the carry. Jungler - In the Jungle, except this time his job is to shut down the enemy jungler, so that the lanes are not ganked. AD Carry - Top. Melee Carries are already found here. Most champions in this lane are melee, so a ranged carry could harass them easily. Tanky Support- This requires personal discretion. If the carry will be fine solo top, then put them bot. If they Carry needs help (e.g. Against Malphite) put them top. No squishy supports that will die within a few seconds. This is to avoid having a very squishy team, as they no longer have their bruiser. Use Leona or Shen here, champions like that. So, what do you think? Notice any real problems?(aside from Dragon) Also, I know the title is slightly inaccurate. If this was to become the metagame, it would be so easily countered it would be unreal. So,[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]The good part; snowball friendly lanes. The bad part; You probably have 20 minutes to win or you lose by default. P.S; AD carry top is like wearing a giant, "Camp me please" sign.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=DuffTime] The good part; snowball friendly lanes. The bad part; You probably have 20 minutes to win or you lose by default. P.S; AD carry top is like wearing a giant, "Camp me please" sign. [/quote] Also meta used to be AD-carry top or mid. So essentially you would be countering yourslf.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210]One little problem... Assassin top lane possibility. Plus the whole camp me sign Duff mentioned. I think we have all been mulling over these possible counters, but the difficult part is having the enemy team NOT adapt. If they do, your essentially pinned down midgame since your AP doesn't have solo EXP and your AD carry is probably stomped.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]The whole reason AD carries were phased out really boils down to two things. First, they got ganked and easily killed by junglers. That was step one. Second, mobility has power creeped over time, and now the gap closing potential of a lot of champions is just too much.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Not to mention a lot of offtanks have high burst to kill the squishy AD top, like Jarvan.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]^ Yes, hence my guide written over a year ago :P[/quote]

[quote=Mikuroo]i still think caitlyn would work as a top because of op traps :p and maybe slightly vayne if your jungle frequently wards for you[/quote]

[quote=utopus]haha the first thing i did after reading this post was check to make sure it was written int he right year at any rate, i suppose this could work if your team was competant about it. the AP bot kinda throws me off, since most supports offer a great deal of survivability to their AD carries, making them pretty damn hard to nuke down (leona and soraka come to mind)... though, AP teemo could be rather devestating, as it allows your bottom lane to have complete immunity to ganks.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]Try it. If you can get a good group of friends together willing to put effort into it, you can show people how well it works.[/quote]