HECARIM that strong now?

[quote=cooper56]I tried him when he first came out was not fan he felt not that great but im wondering what makes himm so strong since alot of pro players and teams are putting him in tier 1 of jungle along side the best like mumu, mundo, lee sin, shyvana udyr etc...[/quote]

[quote=Mikuroo]He has fast clear time, and can operate on a philo stone and a hog. Most good junglers are the ones that dont need the wriggles. He builds tanky and still has a lot of dps with a tri force. Also, he snowballs extremely hard as quoted by stonwall008 "he is the hardest snowballing jungler in the game" mainly because he moves so fast, and if you have an early triforce to back that up its gg. you can't stop his intiate, and once he has shurelyas then you can intiate whenever you want. His fear is op, and his knockback is pretty op too. His heal allows his to take a lot of damage as well, because it heals for any damage your teams deals as well. He's the best or one of hte best intiators in the game, who can get away from almost anything with his e early/mid game.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]hes only really good if you snowball...there are times i use him and dont get a lot of kills or assists and im pretty much useless but if you get even 2 kills in lane yer gonna snowball pretty hard and be unstoppable[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]I'm honestly gonna be quite upset if the pros get my Hecarim ruined as well. They already killed my Urgot ): He's always been strong, but no one has ever payed any attention to him, because he's weak early game, and they can't get around that for some reason. Also, people either overestimate his passive, and build entirely around it, and do horrible because of their bad build Or they realize his passive isn't game breakingly OP, so they decide he sucks as a champion. Doesn't really make sense to me ._.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]honestly his passive is only a little more bonus damage when you get the Triforce or FoN making him an offtank that has extra damage from the MS you get from those two items and yer boots[/quote]

[quote=BluAnimal][[hecarim]] free week. RUSH [[boots of mobility]], QUICK FOLLOW IT UP WITH A [[zeal]]! YEAHHHH!!!![/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]Sheen > Zeal when you use hecarim imo when i used him for his free week i didnt do that =[[/quote]

[quote=Mikuroo]Its too easy to bully a hecarim early game in the jungle which is why pros don't play him . They play fast clears or control , like nunu skarner shyvana mundo maokai[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=Mikuroo] Its too easy to bully a hecarim early game in the jungle which is why pros don't play him . They play fast clears or control , like nunu skarner shyvana mundo maokai [/quote] Pros dont play him yet i see top players and people like stone wall sayings hes good and put him tier one?[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]I remember Stonewall says his tier lists aren't competitive, they're more solo queue, which is why [[lee sin]] is #1 at jungling even if his late game sucks.[/quote]