Jayce and Jarvan

[quote=EXDKain212]I bought jayce like a month ago but never really used him. Decided to give it a go soon but I have no idea how to build him. Some people say that tri-force is core but others say muramana is core. I've tries out both in customs but they all work out for me. Which build is better? Also planning to buy the Lu Bu Jarv skin. But first I'll have to buy Jarvan. Any tips on how to use him?[/quote]

[quote=cooper56]I have more than 100 games on jayce and trinity is not really core any more. Its nice but going bt is much stronger now. With nerfs to trinity on range champ and costs increase its not that amazing still, good item later on tho. I usually get early Brutalizer then go bt. After that depend on what you need need tank item get ga or warmogs or omen. More dmg? Last whisper or trinity force. Jarvan is good he gets good amount of armor from his e and also shreds enemey's armor. I prefer jungle jarvan but top is still good. Ether is fine. For for tips i would say no matter role go very tanky all jarvan needs is a black cleaver and hes good for dmg. Get frozen mallet and other tank items over alot dmg.[/quote]

[quote=ExamplePrime]I would go as far as to say Triforce is bad on Jayce, it doesn't really give him anything he wants Triforce is good on Jarvan but its soo expensive now its better going a slightly different build with Black Cleaver and Gauntlet[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210][[the bloodthirster]] is his only core item.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=ExamplePrime] I would go as far as to say Triforce is bad on Jayce, it doesn't really give him anything he wants Triforce is good on Jarvan but its soo expensive now its better going a slightly different build with Black Cleaver and Gauntlet [/quote] I would not go that far. Trinity gives him alot of dmg and a decent slow. Not best for him but it can work. Ice born not really that great on him ether since he has 1 ap ratio. If your team lacks cc or your getting kited its not bad.[/quote]

[quote=Shuru]NEITHER of those items are good on jayce anymore. Jayce should build basically Bloodthirster Black Cleaver last whisper GA and a defensive item like warmogs or something. that works pretty well, but really BT is the only core he has. Jayce doesn't need Tforce because he doesnt space his abilities out by AAs, and he has a slow already and its pretty strong. Tforce doesn't give him as much damage as a full stacked BT will either, and since he only scales AP on one move and it's not even that much, sheen is basically wasted on him, same with zeal. he doesn't NEED attack speed.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=Shuru] NEITHER of those items are good on jayce anymore. Jayce should build basically Bloodthirster Black Cleaver last whisper GA and a defensive item like warmogs or something. that works pretty well, but really BT is the only core he has. Jayce doesn't need Tforce because he doesnt space his abilities out by AAs, and he has a slow already and its pretty strong. Tforce doesn't give him as much damage as a full stacked BT will either, and since he only scales AP on one move and it's not even that much, sheen is basically wasted on him, same with zeal. he doesn't NEED attack speed. [/quote]People usually buy trinity for slow and mobility it gives jayce not attack speed. Its still good item on him not best but good.[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]jayce is now much weaker as of S3 due to the many new items. play J4 more. he has a great chinese new year skin coming up :D.[/quote]

[quote=EXDKain212]Hmm I see, BT is the core on jayce and he likes Cleaver, LW and GA. J4 likes Cleaver and tanky items. Thanks guys and today I could not resist the sudden impulse to but Kat, but couldn't really use her. I tried watching the pros play her but I just don't know what to do in different situations. Basically, I'll need Kat tips this time :P[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=A Chubby Baby] jayce is now much weaker as of S3 due to the many new items. play J4 more. he has a great chinese new year skin coming up :D. [/quote] Hardly jayce is one my top played ranked and i have 75% win rate right now on him hes hardly much weaker. Still one best tops he wins against 80% of people who top had few hard counters.[/quote]