Is denyeing really that bad?

[quote=PotatisFarfar]So i have started playing corki latley, and i have noticed how freaggin good he is at last hitting, really good actualy, All i need is a dorans blade and some arp runes, and i will get every single last hit on midlane, And here is the part i am bit worried about. It is really fucking op to be able to farm that good! I mean, ofc they culd try to herras you, but i will just pew pew them if they try. Denyeing makes it harder for the other player to farm, and i think it is way to easy to win games only becouse mid is farmed in LoL... I know they wanna give it less farmy apeel, but some heroes are just way to easy to get farmed on... So i wanna know what u think? Is denyeing ok? Becouse right now, there is nothing stopping me as corki... I mean rly, not many heroes can out farm me att all. And it just seems op overall.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Yes Denyeing is a BAD thing. Why? coz it slows down games without accualy giving anything back. It would just turn the tables around. From focusing on last hitting it focuses on denying prio. Creators said they want this game more PvP not PvE. You can lasthit? great do so. Anyone can lasthit so i dont see the problem why it should be changed to make every single game last 80mins...[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]i think dewo summed it up pretty nicely. and yes you've probably heard it everywhere but why the hell would you kill your own guys?[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]The thing is, no one can stop u from farming intill u can carry, and no 1 can gank u mid (if u have deacent team). And i don't think the game wuld take so much longer. Maybe not denyeing is the way to go. But they need to do something about the power of some heroes... And why kill ur own guys? For the greater good ^^[/quote]

[quote=Chaotic Bliss]I cant say that Denying is bad. I might get flamed but IDC. Ive been playing My morgana build, and I dominate mid. Like you and Corki, I can get feed off minions alone. She is a powerful farmer, and there isnt anything you can do about it really. If your champ can farm creep waves fast, than use that power. This is all my personal exerpience...Ive always concidered denying a great way to get ahead of the enemy. If you can farm their creeps faster than they can farm yours, than you are able to push a lane harder then they can. Its a great form of harassment and the more minions you have in front of you, the faster you can take a turret. Again, this is all my personal experience, and I cant say that it has dragged out any of the games Ive played[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]Yeah, As i sad, they need to something about mid heroes that just farm. If not denyeing, something. Becouse it is really op in my eyes[/quote]

[quote=Chaotic Bliss]I think the only thing about that is, some champs, like Morgana, it might be harder to change their farming power. I mean her AoE isnt really that big, and it sucks mana like bad early game. I mean they nerfed AoEs a few patches ago, and I think that some champs would have to have a skill change in order to their farming power. Just my opionion[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]To me the good champs that are good with last hitting with their auto attack are also good at denying (like Corki) but it would help against someone that is farming with spells (like Morgana!). I don't really miss it though because it also widens the advantage of range champs over melee champs in the lane. Melee champs already have enough trouble last hitting, I wouldn't want them to have to worry about denying too. I think it was an interesting part of the game, but it did make early game a lot more tedious... I think I prefer the game without denying. That way you can focus on last hitting and HARASSING which is PvP instead of last hitting and denying and harassing, I really do think taking out denying makes the game more PvP oriented, at least if by a little.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]I think denyeing more of a way to counter the last hitter heroes and ranged carrys like: ashe, mf, cait, corki, sivir. Becouse they can just farm without stopp all game long if they want. It wuld drive the game to a dota style early game. were there is more focus on zoneing and last hitting. Dunno if every one want this :S[/quote]

[quote=Chaotic Bliss]I think it depends on the aggression of the players too. Personally, if Im mid, I will farm creeps, but I will make sure that I land a few skill shots and do some dmg. If a player is passively farming, than its a boring PvE game. But if someone is forcing a fight than its a lil more PvP. There are some that play extremelt aggressive, since most ranged champs take mid they have that power. Than again, an aggressive melee can be good mid too. TANKEON for example. And if you really want to have more PvP in mid, take a melee champ that can close the distance. Panth, Yi, Tryndamere and a few others. Ranged on Ranged mid is more PvE. Melee on melee/ranged is more PvP.[/quote]