Vynertje's S4 quest to the moon!

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] Game 31: I got forced to go mid vs kayle (Who is amongst the most OP champions right now IMO) [/quote] Personally I never really have issues with Kayle but she's hard to stop if she gets going so you can't afford mistakes. As an avid Zed player, she's picked into me a lot. x)[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]^ Well yeah, this is true. Point is, late game she can one shot most of your team while still having one of the strongest defensive ultimates in the game. Going 0/0/0 in lane typically isn't enough cause she'll just farm and reach her item threshold anyway, you really need to shut her down (EDIT: Which I cannot do, obviously. I'm the worst mid you'll ever come across in the high plat/low diamond area).[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] ^ Well yeah, this is true. Point is, late game she can one shot most of your team while still having one of the strongest defensive ultimates in the game. Going 0/0/0 in lane typically isn't enough cause she'll just farm and reach her item threshold anyway, you really need to shut her down. [/quote] Yup very true. Personally I don't think [[Zed]] has much trouble with her in lane as you can force her ult with [[Death Mark]] and still fight her with the BotRK active. Just in teamfights she can be a bitch. [[Karthus]] imo, also does well against her especially with [[Intervention]] not doing a lot against AoE dps.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]She can one shot [[karthus]] at level 9 with ignite, doesn't seem like a good idea to me :p Also, the DPS thingy was actually my reasoning behind the heimerdinger pick, 3 turrets + upgraded turret deals a shitton of DPS and you can easily swap targets.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] She can one shot [[karthus]] at level 9 with ignite, doesn't seem like a good idea to me :p [/quote] Except that [[Karthus]] can farm from 1100 range which she doesn't even remotely get to. People seriously underestimate Karth's laning phase which is really solid.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Yup but in late game the problem still exists. You need to play really cautiously which is kinda risky. Anyway, I could very well be wrong on this cause I literally have 0 experience on mid :p[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] Yup but in late game the problem still exists. You need to play really cautiously which is kinda risky. Anyway, I could very well be wrong on this cause I literally have 0 experience on mid :p [/quote] Well everyone kinda forgot about who Karthus is and what exactly he does because a passively farming Karthus is one of the hardest things to actually shut down.[/quote]

[quote=Hannul][[karthus]] (or karthass) is a [[yasuo]] hard counter. You can't [[wind wall]] ANYTHING and shield is almost useless especially if you dash into that wall of something karthus does[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]I lost previous [[elise]] game (-12 lol) which I forgot to screenshot but then I won again and everything was k. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IQJvZ6M.png[/IMG] I'm starting to get at the rating in which I actually need to try hard to win. Games are getting harder and harder but still going strong. Averaging +28/-11 is fine with me lol.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]My MMR is fucked up lol. Seems like it is somewhere between D4 and D3 O.o Need to get that diamonds. Wish me luck! [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bisoSI9.png[/IMG][/quote]