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Proof Dominion Wins Are Random

Creator: Xander756 March 26, 2014 10:20am

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THis infuriates me. Are you dumb?

You're trying to say that Dominion = SR. You're trying to say that what matters on SR, matters on Dominion. That's wrong. That is completely wrong and you have no idea what the **** you're talking about.

You're saying that your teammates are bad because you're matched with people who are all over the ranked tier spectrum. You're saying that because of this it's random and your chance of winning is random.

Well, no, that's not right. You're in 1000 elo dominion right now. There is 1 revive on your team and there are a **** ton of ghosts in that game = 1000 elo (you can also check your avg elo on team through your games on quickfind.kassad.in).

Koravel is probably around 1800 elo, maybe more. I don't know exactly, but I do know he's around there. He's not a trash player, he carried himself out of Dominion hell (1000 elo, no revives) by himself. He has 1600 wins in Dominion, which is almost triple yours. It doesn't matter that he's silver (although he's currently plat 2 in 3s) because your player skill on SR has basically zero bearing on your player skill on Dominion.

You don't focus on cs'ing (unless you're bot lane, in which case a bit, but it's still nothing like SR), you don't buy the same items, you don't try to stay alive as much as you can, you don't try to kill people as much as you can, you don't wait for your power level to spike before you make ballsy plays, etc.

It's completely different.

Dominion has it's separate elo because of this. In fact most of the high elo dominion players are unranked, silver, or gold, maybe plat. Because they don't focus on ranked, they focus on Dominion. Like I said before, it's completely different what makes you a skilled player on Dominion than a skilled player on SR, and very few people can do both.

If your skill on SR had much effect on Dominion, well then we would have seen teams like C4 Esports and (I believe) Team Curse crush top dominion teams, instead of the other way around (DD#81 for reference).

Slot machines aren't even completely random, but in any case that's not right either. Matchmaking matches you with people who are about equal skill as you. Yeah, even in that Vayne game where you got lots of kills and captures, your other teammates were about as good as you. The other team was too. However the other team had better team comp, and that's about all there is to it to win at that elo.

Not to mention you were probably chasing kills around a **** ton instead of letting them go and defending or capping points instead.

It's perfectly possible to carry in Dominion all by yourself, but an indication that you are good enough to do so isn't whether you had the most captures, or the highest score, or the most kills, least deaths, or assists...it's that you won.

You aren't good enough to carry your team by yourself - you won't win as many games as if you were.

Sauron, for example, is. That's why he's the highest elo player on Dominion.

Why are you losing? Well it's because you're just not a very good player at Dominion. You fail to realize that kills are not what matters, that ghost is not that good, etc etc etc.

You're going to completely disregard this comment anyways - just like you disregarded the comment about Koravel's guide - you'll just say 'meh, that guy sucks because he has a bad SR rank' and stop thinking any more about that. That's why you lose games and are still in 1k elo. Not because there's a '50% chance of winning regardless of anything else'.

It's not luck that determines whether the rest of your team picks revives and good champions and carries the game, it's your elo. Your elo can be raised, that's not luck. In fact almost everything in LoL is falsely interpreted as luck when it shouldn't be.

Well, whatever. Dominate Dominion tournament is tonight at 8 EST, Xander. If you want to see players who are actually good at Dominion play, you should watch the stream. There's a large difference between the low elo teams that sometimes join and the high elo teams that are in the finals.


Everybody has around a 50% win rate. Not just me.
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oh god did you just say "everyone has around 50% win rate" to that whole post?
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So..... Do you even know how to form an arguemnet Xander?

I'm beginning to think that you don't know how to argue. The fact that you are even allowed to write articles for ANYONE is a miracle.
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he did get fired from his last writing job, im pretty sure after this one hes going to be looking for a new job shortly
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DillButt64 wrote:

he did get fired from his last writing job, im pretty sure after this one hes going to be looking for a new job shortly


I also write for SuperCheats.

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I'm beginning to think that you don't know how to argue.


Maybe because I'm not arguing with you?
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Xander756 wrote:

Maybe because I'm not arguing with you?

Dude, yes you are. Whenever you put ANYTHING up, are are making an argument. All of the posts, guides, articles, videos, and blogs on the internet are arguments. When ANYONE publishes ANYTHING, it is an argument. It has been that way since Ancient Egypt. You are arguing your case that Dominion is luck, whether you like it or not.

But alas, the only thing I can come up with at this point point is
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Xander756 wrote:

Maybe because I'm not arguing with you?


Idk, you're trying to prove a point, and dillbutt's disagreeing with your assertion. Sounds like an argument to me
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Xander756 wrote:

I also write for SuperCheats.

There are ARTICLES on that site? News to me.

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Perfect summary. 10/10


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Xander756 wrote:



I also write for SuperCheats.




can i ask where you went to school for journalism? i think i would be content writing complete ******** and getting paid for it like you do, seems like it would be a good living, please put a good word in for me
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