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The only reason you've stated for Clarity being good is to help noobs manage their mana. I'm sorry, but if that's the best reason you can come up with for being adamant about Clarity being a usable spell, then you kinda had it coming...


Yes Sirell I deserved to be treated as a jerk because I said think about others a little instead of just yourself...Yes I am a real jerk for putting others first, for actually thinking about putting the team first.

Do any of you listen to yourselves at all? I doubt it because you can rarely listen to someone who has an opinion that although valid is different to yours

Let me get one thing straight there is a difference between Necessary and Useful...its Necessary to have Flash, Smite if you are a Jungle, Teleport, Ignite, Barrier if you are ADC and Exhaust if you are support...however in RARE occasions (read that bit people - RARE not always not even often but sometimes) a spell like Clarity or Clairvoyance will have it usefulness in a match up and if you people on here are still not listen I said its a RARE occasion that these spells will be useful but useful they will be.

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It's not that... It's just that you keep saying stupid things, so it's no surprise when people mock you for it.

I'm not gonna lie, it's like EVERYTHING that comes out of your keyboard is filled with misinformation.

Even your explanation between 'necessary' and 'useful' is so full of misinformation. Like, there is literally negligible amounts of information that is correct there.

Clarity and Clairvoyance are NEVER (I repeat, NEVER) useful. 1) If you manage your mana, then Clarity is redundant. 2) You can buy the blue trinket, making Clairvoyance redundant. 3) EVERY summoner spell is better.

If you want to put your money where your mouth is, I'd like you to reference a recent and relevant game where Clarity and/or Clairvoyance was picked in high tier soloqueue (say plat+ just to give you room to work with) or competitive play and turned a match on its head.

And I rarely play with pre-level 30s, so most the people I play with at least have an inkling of mana management. And when I do play with pre-level 30s, I teach them good habits, such as mana management. In addition, it's pre-level 30s, for ****'s sakes, no one gives a **** about those games. My teammates can run at the turret and kill themselves 20 times while I laugh for all I care.
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I'm sriously not sure why this argument is still happening.
I mean seriously ask yourself these questions
Do you use clarity on a regular basis?
Can you theoretically come up with a situation in which clarity is actually useful?
Have you EVER had a situation where you thought clarity would have saved you in that situation?
Have you EVER caught the enemy out using clairvoyance other than when they were getting baron/dragon which should have been warded anyway?

I mean seriously if you can actually come up with a situation in which clairvoyance and clarity are useful other than just saying they are, then we can show you some respect.

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And that's what a Bronze 5 said to you, MyBloodIsBlack.
Sorry, but now you can't even argue about other people being ignorant because of a higher rank...
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I mean seriously if you can actually come up with a situation in which clairvoyance and clarity are useful other than just saying they are, then we can show you some respect.


Clairvoyance I can not come up with a situation that would warrant it being useful unless of course you are a newbie Jungle and you believe that it would aid you in watching the Red or Blue camp for attack, yes I get it that would be stupid but some people are allowed to make mistakes.

As for clarity I already came up with a useful situation but I guess because its me who write it most people didn't make an effort to read it and assumed I was talking stupid but hopefully they are now listening and will take this in...Unlike Sirell, some people DO play with pre level 30 because they are helping friends who are just starting LOL now unlike alot of you who feel they were born with mana management in their genes, some players are not so lucky and do require aid in that area however they may not know how and when to use it properly so the safe bet is for you as a player to have Clarity to help them out whilst they are getting a hang of the game.

If thats not a valid enough reason then you can keep your respects because Id rather help others than act like I am better and they are worthless.
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People who often use Clarity have come to rely on it too much, and are oftentimes reckless in their mana usage because of that.

Generally, it won't help them learn anything but how to mindlessly spam abilities as they come off CD.
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Clairvoyance I can not come up with a situation that would warrant it being useful unless of course you are a newbie Jungle and you believe that it would aid you in watching the Red or Blue camp for attack, yes I get it that would be stupid but some people are allowed to make mistakes.


sniping with long-ranged/global skills and checking dragon/baron/buffs/brushes.
Use found, so it is better than clarity
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sniping with long-ranged/global skills and checking dragon/baron/buffs/brushes.
Use found, so it is better than clarity


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Maybe Clarity could be used for mana intensive, long range skillshot compositions... in aram
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Clairvoyance I can not come up with a situation that would warrant it being useful unless of course you are a newbie Jungle and you believe that it would aid you in watching the Red or Blue camp for attack, yes I get it that would be stupid but some people are allowed to make mistakes.


You'd substitute Flash for Clairvoyance? Now I've heard it all. Maybe if you're Shaco. The only place for Clairvoyance is on a support. Everyone else needs the summoner spell slot for defensive/offensive purposes.

As for clarity I already came up with a useful situation but I guess because its me who write it most people didn't make an effort to read it and assumed I was talking stupid but hopefully they are now listening and will take this in...Unlike Sirell, some people DO play with pre level 30 because they are helping friends who are just starting LOL now unlike alot of you who feel they were born with mana management in their genes, some players are not so lucky and do require aid in that area however they may not know how and when to use it properly so the safe bet is for you as a player to have Clarity to help them out whilst they are getting a hang of the game.

If thats not a valid enough reason then you can keep your respects because Id rather help others than act like I am better and they are worthless.


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And when I do play with pre-level 30s, I teach them good habits, such as mana management.


Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. I teach them not to rely on Clarity. I don't intentionally teach them bad habits that will keep them in bronze. I wasn't born with mana management, I learnt it.

The situation you came up with is just stupid, it really is. You take Clarity to help your pre-level 30 friends? That's not helping them at all, that's teaching them reliance on an unnecessary Summoner Spell. You want to help your friends? STOP USING CLARITY. Otherwise, they're just going to learn Bronze habits from you.

Virtually all my friends are level 30 now and the ones that aren't already know that Clarity is a bad spell (if they don't, I'm sure as hell gonna tell them). And I'm hardly going into ranked thinking, 'Hm, maybe my ADC will need me to take Clarity, in case he's **** at mana management', am I? No, I'm going to pack Ignite and try to kill the enemy laner.

And stop acting like you're so self-righteous. We're all trying to help you, but you're just really REALLY dense.
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