Is Midlane Riven and Kha'Zix still viable?

[quote=CatalystLoL]After all the changes and nerfs to Riven and Kha'Zix, are they still viable midlaners? I personally haven't seen a single Midlane Riven or Kha'Zix in any of my games since they got nerfed.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Kha'Zix]] is more effective from the jungle it seems, he also got across the board nerfs to his kit aside from his evolved ultimate, which really hurts his laning phase. Probably still viable though. [[Riven]] got a lot of base damage nerfs, so she just isn't played that much in general. I think she's probably okay, just isn't as effective mid because her early game damage isn't as retarded as it has been. She also got a nerf to her shield which really hurts her against ranged champions[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Kha gets bullied very easily in mid, the only real way he can win vs meta match ups is if he level 1/2 cheeses them and snowballs. And even then he's controlled very easily because you probably aren't maxing W and can't efficiently clear minion waves.[/quote]

[quote=FantasySniper]Both are now "lower-tier" mids, because it's hard for them to keep with other champs so early in the laning phase, Kha especially so due to the way his kit works and the advantages you miss out on.[/quote]

[quote=JackFable]Personally I still take Riv mid with a good amount of success - she just isn't played the same as other mids. You have to play really passive and take E first (though max normal route) with (what I take) two rejuvenation beads. Get in your Q poke and W/3rdQ/E away from their abilities (although save E for targeted ones or ones you can't get away from otherwise). Strength isn't in getting an early tower, but in pushing lane with early waveclear (rush Rav. Hydra) and roaming bot or top and snowballing. When it hits lategame, you use your incredibly waveclear and mobility to splitpush (and with her walljumps, those who are good with them won't need flash, so taking teleport will increase your ganks and ensure you return to lane to push back the wave/support team). There are some mids that will still crush her (Kat tends to be one, or LB, mostly those with low CD harass), but she works extremely well against champs like VelKoz, Viktor, and if played right, Heimer isn't even much of a problem. This is my experience at least, I would give picture examples of my endgame scores, but it's been too long since I last went mid with her and they aren't available on the site I get them from.[/quote]

[quote=Junkyarddude]Kha'Zix in my opinion is still pretty viable in mid lane. The Q damage when your opponent is isolated is pretty big early game, actually more than tKha'zixs' old Q's damage. I think any champ is viable in solo Q anyways, all you have to do is have a great understanding of your champion, as well as good map awareness, mechanics, and ward buying skills (this is coming from a bronze 4 player btw).[/quote]

[quote=TheKut]With the resent nerfs to [[Kha'Zix]] I'm not sure he's viable at all. [[Riven]] could still do good I suppose, against the right champions.[/quote]

[quote=Omnislash GG]I guess if you're playing normals, then it won't really matter. You can play whatever you want. Ranked, however.. Better not.[/quote]

[quote=KatariFIRE][[Kha'Zix]] better be in a jungle now, his W hit 20% stronger to jungle monster. He is less tanky because of his R nerf, and rely more isolate for his Q change. You wanna trade with enemy champ? Well, I guest he just hug his minion and your Q is nothing.[/quote]

[quote=Foxy Riven]Riven still works, trust me. Just make sure you get a kill at level 2/3. If you get bullied in lane you're gonna have a bad time though. If the midlaner is a good kiter, you'll be in trouble as well. She's a great roamer because of her kit, try to get a few kills on the other lanes if you can't deny their midlaner.[/quote]