Orianna in different metas

[quote=TheKut][[Orianna]] is a champion that has been picked here and there in every meta throughout the seasons. She has been picked against assassins, burst mages, sustained damage mages and every other type you could think of. I don't play her myself but I could imagine that the reason she's been picked is just because she's so ridiculously safe if you can maximize her potential. So I was wondering if that really is a safe place for a champion to be? Are there any particulair match ups she struggles really much against? And what potential meta could really throw out her from being a good pick?[/quote]

[quote=Vorcia]She doesn't struggle against anyone. She doesn't dominate any lanes either. She's like the Caitlyn on mid lane, except she trades off impossible to beat for a better mid and late game.[/quote]

[quote=sirell][[orianna]] mid is like [[lee sin]] in the jungle, or [[caitlyn]] as ADC. Jack of all trades, master of none. If she gets ahead, she can stomp. If she falls behind, she still offers utility. Isn't weak in laning and as long as she has [[command: shockwave]], she can be relevant in teamfights.[/quote]

[quote=TheKut]But is that really fun to play? And is it healthy? I mean, Riot always preaches about that all champions should have strengths and weaknesses, and as I see it [[Orianna]] has her utility as a strength but she has no particular weaknesses. How is that healthy or fun?[/quote]

[quote=Vorcia][quote=TheKut]But is that really fun to play? And is it healthy? I mean, Riot always preaches about that all champions should have strengths and weaknesses, and as I see it [[Orianna]] has her utility as a strength but she has no particular weaknesses. How is that healthy or fun?[/quote] It's not, welcome to mid lane.[/quote]

[quote=FantasySniper][quote=TheKut]But is that really fun to play? And is it healthy? I mean, Riot always preaches about that all champions should have strengths and weaknesses, and as I see it [[Orianna]] has her utility as a strength but she has no particular weaknesses. How is that healthy or fun?[/quote] A consistent champion, who is not easily winded by the distinctions made by others, is not really all that toxic under the circumstances. The problem comes when their rewards are too easily available compared to others of the same class. You could argue that [[Orianna]] is unhealthy because she has a consistent [i]and effective[/i] power, because this describes a poor ratio of strength to weakness. According to LoLking (www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=mid-matchup&range=monthly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league= diamond), she seems to struggle against anyone who isn't [[Yasuo]]. I don't know where I can go from here. :/[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]I always thought she was cool because she could use her abilities while moving. Then [[syndra]] came along.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]There are quite a few like that... Vi, Udyr and few others come to mind as champions who are good to main since there always in upper tier and good picks no matter the meta but never get nerfed usually ori being one.[/quote]

[quote=Vorcia][quote=Cooper112]Udyr[/quote] No.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Vorcia][quote=Cooper112]Udyr[/quote] No.[/quote] Um yes... You obviously dont know how good udyr is if you main him like trick2g. Hes one of few that is always been good if you play it correctly to carry the game.[/quote]