This ryze is not tanky at all and does about the same or less damage than tanky mana ryze, though the damage is now split between AD and AP which is better in some situations. Overall not great.

Interesting... might try it for fun.

it's an interesting idea, so +1

Goulasch there is other choies than hybrid and pure AP. Personally I think that with the new patch the best builds are the ones that goes Mana, health & CDR - makes him an insane burster with sustained damage and also makes him hard to kill.

@ CBandicoot

You tried this build and failed with it five minutes after I published it, and then suggest that I instead go with pure AP on the revamped Ryze, who benefits very very little from it at all?

Please.

Right... I tried this and it sucked...really badly.
It really makes no sense to get any ad AND ap when you get a Lich Bane. Just go pure AP with a Lich Bane and see the difference.

Dude, ManaMune? plz look at other builds, and change a bit...

DaBo

@shadows fiji

Yeah, again, this is the first guide I've written, so I knew when I was writing it that my formatting would be off. Working on that ;D

As far as the items are concerned, all items currently listed are items that I've been using personally while testing this type of thing, and all of 'em serve a specific purpose in the long run.

Try it for yourself ;D

Dude this is helping you ... change some items ... plz ..

:D no offence and get your build in more depth i guess if you want to make it one of the top..

Advice: Follow this link for a good build - http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/mobafire-support/frequently-asked-questions-read-me-1272

explains how to make a good build ..

after looking at this i decided to make hybrid ryze myself .. gona give the link after i am done ..