Aatrox, Wukong, Rengar, Riven, Tryndamere:...

[quote=Stylistical]One of my friends complains that I use "Useless" champs. I mostly play [[Wukong]], [[Rengar]], [[Riven]], [[Aatrox]], and [[Tryndamere]]. He says the only one that is actually a tiny bit useful is [[Tryndamere]] just because of his ultimate. He claims that [[Aatrox]] is weak, and not worth playing (Even though I dominate with him), and that [[Wukong]] is just terrible. He mains ADC (Mostly [[Vayne]]), so you can see where he gets the cockiness from. Just as a general rule, most ADCs are arrogant dick weeds. But, Are these champions useless in team comps, am I just good at useless champs?[/quote]

[quote=Kazega]"Useless" is a weird term. There is no such thing as "Useless" we say it because we don't like what the champ is doing for us. Trynd and Riven are Hyper Carries and snowball hard. Trynd also split's really well, which is deemed useless because most teams at our level don't know how to 4-man stall. Wukong shreds armor and has nice Utility and a great hard engage. far from useless. Not really sure what Aatrox does because I don't play him at all and I don't see him too often either. Rengar is a consistent LCS pick. He is going to make a showing at worlds (I predict a 25% pick/ban rate) so he is far from useless. I myself am often catching myself complaining about "useless Junglers" Like Yi and Udyr who rely more on every lane doing well so they can farm Feral Flare and wreck the late game. Your ADC friend is most likely complaining that these guys don't have a lot of peal for him/her and (s)he is terrible at positioning, which isn't uncommon at the Silver level.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Wukong, Rengar are decent junglers. It could even be argued that riven is a decent jungler as well as she's 5/1 in LCS. On the other hand Riven and Aatrox are definitely good top laners. So yes your friend is 100% wrong[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][[Aatrox]] is also a good jungler as well. His early dives are pretty much the only reason to use him currently though.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][[Wukong]] is a terrible jungler atm. No early pressure and a slow clear.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=GrandmasterD][[Wukong]] is a terrible jungler atm. No early pressure and a slow clear.[/quote] His clear speed is decent, it's his clear sustain that is his worst part. Also yeah his pre-6 ganks are lacking although he can still gank successfully if you can use your stealth well. After 6 he's really strong and his late game is amongst the strongest of all junglers.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][quote=Stylistical]Just as a general rule, most ADCs are arrogant dick weeds.[/quote] Or maybe you make them arrogant dick weeds by saying such things :^) You cockjuggling thundercunt :^) [size=1]the last sentence is a joke if you don't get it no offenserino[/quote]

[quote=Ninja Trigger]Every champion can be viable but not every champion is favorable, but at least your not using [[Urgot]] :P As far as ADC'S being cocky that is true [[Vayne]] mains can be the rudest QQ-iest and most arrogant in my experience anyway.[/quote]

[quote=Ingenio]to order your list: Rengar > Wukong > Aatrox > Riven > Tryndamere note that Rengar is THE JUNGLER TO GO these days, he just terminates Carriers without any def mechanics / items etc... Wukong is strong; just another category, he is more the Bruiser, and there are possibly better options to go. Aatrox "useless"? - Erm, talk to you "friend", talk to him seriously. Riven can absolutely annihilate a whole enemy team, but i think she is really bad. And Tryn - yes he is absolutely useless. I know, challenger/diamond players like to play him in unranked games and destruct fools, what he is totally capable of. So, your list ranges from one of the best to very poor ;) Good friends you have.[/quote]

[quote=Foxy Riven]So we went from "OMG RIVEN OP STOP USING EASY CHAMP BG NOOB" to "Riven is fking useless"? :( I main ADC though nowadays, and I mostly only type in chat for instructions or a well-deserved "gj bro". Your friend may be an arrogant dickweed, just like 50% of all LOL players. Nothing to do with maining ADC ;)[/quote]