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Some questions about Udyr !

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Hey everyone !

First of all, I wanna apologize for the English mistakes I will probably make, I'm French and I'm trying my best !

So yeah, I have some questions about Udyr, jungle Udyr ! I've been playing a few games following guides, and I've noticed something : Udyr jungle is played as a tank, when Udyr top is usually built to do a bit more damage... Is there a specific reason for that ? Can I build Udyr a bit more agressivly n the jungle ? By agressivly, I mean with items like Brutalizer, Bloodthirster and using his Q a lot more ! I guess it would make it much harder in the early jungle but uh, I was wondering why not ?

Another thing : I've seen more and more AD casters mid, and I even saw some bruisers. Can Udyr be played mid against champs like Fizz or Diana ? I can easily guess that Udyr wouldn't work against ranged nukers as Ryze or Orianna, btw !

Here are my 2 questions, yeah, you are free to call me a noob for asking these, I guess the answers are obvious :p


Have a nice evenning, and Merry Xmas !
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » December 24, 2012 2:48pm | Report
In the jungle, he doesn't have as much money as if he were top lane. Defense items are a lot cheaper, and easier to build parts of, than straight offense items.

I don't think he'll work mid as he doesn't have a good gap closer or any range. Compare that to Talon or Pantheon and you'll see a clear winner for midlane.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » December 24, 2012 3:04pm | Report
It's also because jungle Udyr tends to max Phoenix Stance whereas top lane Udyr maxes Tiger Stance which actually scales well with AD.

It's definitely possible to jungle Tiger Stance so feel free to try it. You'll still need to build at least somewhat tanky though or you'll die before you even get into range.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pheyniex » December 24, 2012 4:38pm | Report
Tiger Stance jungle behaves better than Phoenix Stance in S3 due to AS buff working so well with Hunter's Machete.


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In season 2 phoenix stance jungle udyr was probably the best option to go with Udyr because personally it was the fastest way to clear out the jungle. It still is now, it's just that the jungle camps are harder than before.

With mid Udyr, I have not really seen it before so I am not so sure... maybe the AD casters or bruisers mid might have been talon or pantheon. Talon is a viable mid because of his silence and high mobility, easily dodging skill shots. With pantheon, he's pretty strong mid if you know how to play him right. Have seen a lot of high elo pantheon mid games ~

Anyways if you're jungling Udyr just stick with the normal jungle items, just make sure you have Wit's End, you can also get Blade of the Ruined King but you should also consider being tanky so have a Randuin's Omen alongside with you. The Bloodthirster is fine, nothing wrong with that.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Flip-Flap » December 24, 2012 11:42pm | Report
Well thanks everyone ! I pretty much understand why Phenix Udyr is better in the jungle, so yeah, I'll stick to the usual build ! Though I might try to play him in the top lane !

Thanks a lot again, and merry xmas ! :3
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