SkidmarkD wrote:
Got bored after 2002, but plz, check the list, it's an interesting read tbh.
It shows that proper channels just don't work for the intelligence agencies. They think themselves above the law and be aware should you ever dare to tell em they're not.
I mean come on, seriously, given the info leaked, how vehemently the practices have been defended by politicians, do you really think the proper channels would've worked in this case? Given the examples previous whistleblowers have provided?
Also, find it kinda funny. 40 years after Perry Fellwock went public on the NSA, things haven't changed a single bit.
Thanks for posting the info.
I find this more sad than funny tho :(
Latest Legend wrote:
Am I the only one still thinking it's all very convenient? Everything the man says is true without validation, or at least that's my observation. Either way I'm very surprised he's still alive.
I'm not claiming anything, but I think we shouldn't become mindless fans.
Yeah, that's just not the case.. Many pieces of information have been confirmed along with the source.
You'd literally have to paranoid to actually believe that it's orchestrated.
"Blizzard spoke thus; Thou shalt not BM. And the players replied Nay, I shall Play my hand with Lethal already on the board. And so Blizzard sent unto them this Brawl of Yogg, As a lesson for their sins of Pride and Greed, for he is the Prophet of Madness and RNG. On that day, the tavern descended into an era of chaos and darkness, until the weekend passed and everyone forgot all about it. Amen. Book of SMOrc, Verse 20, Chapter 4." - Feam T
Latest Legend wrote:
Am I the only one still thinking it's all very convenient? Everything the man says is true without validation, or at least that's my observation. Either way I'm very surprised he's still alive.
I'm not claiming anything, but I think we shouldn't become mindless fans.
I think you don't quite understand how it works.
It's not what he says that gets posted/made public. The journalists extract the data from the files he provides. It's a similar procedure as with the wikileaks articles, the data is checked/sifted through, redacting names and other identifying data and then re-formulated in bite-sized chunks the public can understand.
That adds just another layer where something could go wrong. I like to be paranoid sometimes. If I posted the NSA was tracking all internet trafic 15 years ago you would probably react the same as you do on my absurd hypothesis. Let's not underestimate them.
I'm not saying it's all orchestrated or anything, but I was just pointing out that Snowden isn't a boyband. Once again, no disrespect for the man.
I realize the info might just be checked and found real, but that doesn't mean it's just the tip of the iceberg or just a more romantic version of the real thing, maybe to keep the common-folk happy, maybe Snowden doesn't even know about it. After all, people feeling safe is far more important than being safe for a government.
It's all just hypothetical and paranoid but I think it's worth keeping in mind with things like this.
I'm not saying it's all orchestrated or anything, but I was just pointing out that Snowden isn't a boyband. Once again, no disrespect for the man.
I realize the info might just be checked and found real, but that doesn't mean it's just the tip of the iceberg or just a more romantic version of the real thing, maybe to keep the common-folk happy, maybe Snowden doesn't even know about it. After all, people feeling safe is far more important than being safe for a government.
It's all just hypothetical and paranoid but I think it's worth keeping in mind with things like this.
********'s a pretty good fertilizer
it is all good searz check it:
http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-gets-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-norwegian-mp-114024970.html
http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-gets-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-norwegian-mp-114024970.html

Bioalchemist wrote:
it is all good searz check it:
http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-gets-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-norwegian-mp-114024970.html
Oh hell yeah.
"Moral justification is a powerful disengagement mechanism. Destructive conduct is made personally and socially acceptable by portraying it in the service of moral ends." - Albert Bandura
"Ultimately, if people lose their willingness to recognize that there are times in our history when legality becomes distinct from morality, we aren't just ceding control of our rights to government, but our futures." - Edward Snowden
"Ultimately, if people lose their willingness to recognize that there are times in our history when legality becomes distinct from morality, we aren't just ceding control of our rights to government, but our futures." - Edward Snowden
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I'm not claiming anything, but I think we shouldn't become mindless fans.
I did receive $500 for posting this and once again I don't claim anything at all but if people were to have a serious discussion about this could you please drop the fanclub attitude? Hell, he's the word of the year already.
/paranoid
I'm amazed there is still attention for this affair and people actually seem to know about it. I would've expected that people would lose interest within a few days like with every other "major" event.