Kha'zix after nerfs?

[quote=CrazyMBP]Hey all, wanted to get some opinions around here on Kha'zix after the changes that happened not too long ago. I know he dropped off the face of the planet in competitive play, but I was wondering if he is still considered viable in solo queue, and how his gameplay has changed. From what I read maxing and evolving Q first is the way to go now, but I've also seen people still max W first for the lane sustain and help farming early, even though it is not going to be evolved. Any opinions on which way is better to go? And as far as builds, do people still rush a tear on him? I know he was supposed to have less mana problems after the changes, so with the added difficulty of stacking tear nowadays, is it even worth it? And finally, is he still best mid? I talked to someone that said he's better top than mid now since he doesnt have as much ranged farming ability as he did with his old W. Basically, just wanted to see how Kha'zix works now, and if anyone has had recent success playing him[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]max and evolve q, dont go middle, dont build tear, be aggro as fk early. dont evolve in this order Q > E > R[/quote]

[quote=SkidmarkD]He gets raped in mid. He does manage to do well when roaming, so that's the only reason to keep him mid, but that does mean an early loss of mid tower and uncontested farm for the APC.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]I've been playing Kha'Zix mid a lot at high plat, and I can tell you there's a trick to making his laning phase quite strong if you pull it off. Start Q, [[elixir of fortitude]] and 4 HP pots ( wait at your base for the 4th one seeing as you can't help your jungler do their buff from a distance with Q anyway ). Assuming your enemy is ranged, kill the enemy minions as fast as possible with both auto-attacks and Q to hit level 2 before them. Take E, pop your elixir and jump on them and try and go for a kill, flashing for it if necessary. Usually you can kill them right there, unless they [[flash]] out of your range. In which case, go back to the minions, at some point leave your enemy's sight so you can get your passive back up, and farm until your E is back up. When it is, use [[flash]] + [[leap]] + Q and an auto-attack which should in most cases kill them. The Flash is not necessary if they're stupid enough to get in your range. After that it's pretty hard for the enemy mid to get back in the lane when they died at level 1 or 2. This usually works for me even at plat, at low silver / bronze it works even better because people there don't even take armor in their runes, meaning you can literally 1-shot them at level 2.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]I call cheese. No seriously, he has valid points. But if that doesn't work, you lost mid. The few bugs I've seen going mid since nerfs have either been fed early and did somewhat ok or just went bad.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]hes feast or famine now, i dont use him if im not 100% sure im going to stomp lane because hes useless if hes behind but incredibly strong if hes ahead[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]u can do the same thing top and its a lot easier and safer vapora.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=H4xDefender] u can do the same thing top and its a lot easier and safer vapora. [/quote] It's harder to keep killing them as they get tankier though. :P[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]cant get tankier if they got no gold hehehehehehe[/quote]

[quote=LevasK]I do not own [[Kha'Zix]] ,so all I'm about to say is purely my own ideas that I have not tested. I believe that [[Kha'Zix]] could be really strong at invading enemy jungle especially trying to find and kill enemy jungler at level 2 or 3 since enemies that are near neutral monsters are considered isolated [[Taste Their Fear]] would deal extremely high damage considering that it's cooldown is only 3.5s and that in most cases the enemy jungler will not be at full health. If you know which buff the enemy jungler is going to start you could start the opposite buff and level up your Q at lvl 1 and take E at level 2 then invade. Between your passive AAs that you can weave in between your Qs and E if they use a gap closer or flash [[Kha'Zix]] should be able to take down most of not all junglers especially if you got to start at red buff. As for evolving your skills I honestly have no idea. H4xDefender- Since I know that you are a high level jungler I'd like to get your opinion on this as I could be completely incorrect about [[Kha'Zix]] counter jungling potential.[/quote]