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Last Whisper/ No IE on Corki?

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July 19, 2012 6:31pm
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Keels » July 19, 2012 6:31pm | Report
I saw in a game of TPA vs CLGblack a puzzling thing on their Corki player: He got Last Whisper, which confused me... why would you have an item that is made less effective by his own e? I understand for high armor targets it may be better, but on corki, with 16 arpen from runes and masteries, and 10 % arpen, attacking with a full spray from Gatling Gun and giving 3 stacks of The Black Cleaver means you reduce their armor by a full 85, then you penetrate 16, so you penetrate 101 armor and penetrate an additional 10%. But what may confuse some Corki players is the "fine print" on his E: "The armor reduction persists as long as the enemy is under continuous fire". This is semi-ambiguous. Does this mean if you turn away from them for a second it disappears? Does it persist for the duration? Whatever the answer, the choice is obvious: Last Whisper is the much better buy, as BOTH methods of reduction are only temporary, and are not immediately beneficial. Verdict: Buy Last Whisper.

In the same game, I saw the Corki AND opposing Graves forgo Infinity Edge. Not just for a certain amount of time; for the entire match. At this point I was really scratching my head. Can anyone shed some light on why they did this?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » July 19, 2012 6:56pm | Report
It's hard for LW to be bad. :P

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » July 19, 2012 7:20pm | Report
Gatling Gun armour reduction stacks and lasts for 2 seconds.

Normally I prefer Last Whisper but I actually favour The Black Cleaver on Corki cuz Gatling Gun is so awsum.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Hateryx » July 21, 2012 7:25pm | Report
Generally, Last Whisper reduces more Armor than the The Black Cleaver if the enemy Armor is more than or equal to 113 Armor (113 Armor x 40% Armor Pen= 45.2 Gross Armor Penetration, before adding/considering ArmorPen Runes, Masteries , Abilities ) The general rule is, the higher the Armor, the more effective is the Last Whisper is.

In the case that you mentioned, it is probably that enemy team invested more on Armor items, which pushed their Corki to buy Last Whisper. In addition to Last Whisper's armor pen, Corki bought Infinity Edge to cope up with the damage output. Last Whisper attack damage is not that decent, and either Bloodthrister or Infinity Edge can only pair that low damage. IMO, the Infinity Edge is better to pair the Last Whisper because of its critical chance, and critical damage.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Machineae » July 21, 2012 9:54pm | Report
I hate how most people buy LW last and something like BT or GA instead. LW is infinitely useful if you're an ADC.
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Stupid is in the air.

I'm going to kill myself.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Valkenhyn » July 26, 2012 11:10pm | Report
DuffTime wrote:

Stupid is in the air.

I'm going to kill myself.


D: don't do it, i wouldn't be able to chuckle at your witty comments anymore...that would be tragic
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Embracing » July 26, 2012 11:14pm | Report
Playing AD Carry?

PLZ BUY LAST WHISPER!
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