Manamune on Nocturne

[quote=DEWO]Played Noct ALOT already coz i realy like him, and i must say that... No... so far his skills are fairly cheap so you dont have mana problems unless you spam your shield like a madman. Many Noc's are jungling so you should have blue buff quite frequently. I dont. I prefer laneing. And if you do stuff correctly (not try to kill with your Q but utilize the speed and AD it provides) you should have nearly 0 mana problems (i only have problems on lvl 6-8 when i am used to roam the map and assist or get kills on other lanes which makes me use Q quite frequently without visiting base). There are better items for him, and later on Manamune will just block a space in your inventory.[/quote]

[quote=Atheb]uh dewo you lane him 2? nice to manamune: too build up tear you will need to spam your skills more than normal. even than you wont build it up fast as you dont spam abillities as much as urgot ez and corki. so you spam your abillitys for building up tear which will cause you to be oom.... i personally get a catalyst often it will help you more with mana and can be built into a banshees veil. with tear -> manamune you will sacrifice your early damage which is great with noc[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I actually liked Manamune on Noc...but I'm a skill-spammin' mana-whore on anyone with low mana.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Yes i do Atheb, I just cant stand all those kills that would get away while i was doing nothin in jungle. @ The_Nameless_Bard If you are spamming spells, than use mp5 runes? Usualy it is enaugh and Nocturne isnt REALY nessesary to get manamune, i am spammin like hell, damn i am even using Clarity on many champions coz of that and ppl dont like it :P And for me it is realy hard to go oom on nocturne... Afc if you mindlesly spam E without the chance of scoring a kill anyway you will go oom.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I only played Noc a few times, he's really not my type at all.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]As far as i see AP champs are your type and even if you play a carry you go for AP :P[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]That sounds about right....lol I saw someone play an AP Noc and he carried hard, but it's not really viable in my opinion...[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]Archangels' staff and Manamune are two items that should be avoided except only in the most extreme cases. I used to buy archangels on almost every caster I played, but then I realized that Rod of Ages is far better for more or less the same price. Champions like karthus (who can stack them for maximum glass cannon ultimate post-mortum), taric (who needs a massive mana pool for his ultimate), ryze, and few others should buy it. The above mentioned urgot, ezreal, and corki should buy manamune, but it should be otherwise avoided.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]I made this thread when Noc first came out. Since then I have concluded that Manamune is not the right direction to go :P[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Trojan995] Archangels' staff and Manamune are two items that should be avoided except only in the most extreme cases. I used to buy archangels on almost every caster I played[/quote] Same :3 But back then I mostly did it for the AP. There was no deathcap back then. [quote]Champions like karthus (who can stack them for maximum glass cannon ultimate post-mortum), taric (who needs a massive mana pool for his ultimate), ryze, and few others should buy it. The above mentioned urgot, ezreal, and corki should buy manamune, but it should be otherwise avoided.[/quote] Taric is debatable, but the others are great with Arch Staff/Manamune. I guess Ezreal doesn't need it either, but the extra AD while totally eliminating any mana trouble you might run into is nice.[/quote]