Penetration

[quote=Shadowavion]for penetration what comes first percentage or just straight penetration? penetration%:void staff, last whisperer direct penetration:sorcerer boots, black cleaver[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]Depends on the enemy team. If they have 300 MR, go %pen cause you're not going to be able to get straight up 150 mpen. If mr numbers are lower (100s and less) then go straight up mpen, you'll get a lot more accomplished doing that.[/quote]

[quote=Mowen]Just remember that flat magic penetration is applied before % pen. So keep that in mind not to have a lot of flat mpen + % mpen. Lots of times you can delay your [[void staff]] until later in your build if you're planning on it, to give the enemy team a chance to have enough MR for it to be worth it. You can also get flat mpen early in your build and it will be effective even if they don't have any MR.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]"Armor reduction and armor penetration are applied in this order: 1. Percent reduction (Bushwhack / Pounce) 2. Flat reduction (The Black Cleaver, Puncturing Taunt, etc) 3. Flat penetration (The Brutalizer, Sunder Mastery, Runes of Desolation) 4. Percent penetration (Last Whisper)" Same applies to Mpen[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Yeah, B-Wong, Mowen, you misinterpreted. I think the OP just wants to know the order that it's applied in, in which case DEWO's got it covered.[/quote]

[quote=shadows fiji]ok i don't know much about this so ill just learn :P[/quote]

[quote=Ippytraxx]Wait a second.... there's no penet.... ohhhhh right that penetration hehehe... :X Title gave me the wrong idea...[/quote]

[quote=Dremu]Damn got the wrong idea when I saw the name of this thread, Guess I should just go back then[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Please keep the posts on topic. This one is going oftop again. Shadowavion do you have any other questions or you got all you wanted? :>[/quote]