Thanks for the comment and for the feedback on the forums.

I like it, I don't know why it's 50%, but attack speed runes are a big no/no, as are damage per level runes. The only other problem I have is the guardian angel.

+1

Thanks.

ANTI-TROLLER TO THE RESCUE!!! good build overall, I went 5/2/3

Thank you.

I actually found this build to be decent

Nobody lives to deal damage when focusfired like you stated in the posts on the forums if they are a damage dealer so there you have it, saying jarvan is a bruiser so he cant be a damage dealer means you also think jax should be built more defensively then it is being built.

Bad summoners? give me one mere fact why those summoner spells are bad, you can't as summoner spells are always depending on the prefference of the user and flash/ignite are very usefull just as ghost/exhaust are.

Bad items? There is no such thing as bad items, maybe items that don't fit but these items work just fine, it's even proven so give it a break.

Also the masteries, i don't feel it's worth it to get the tiny bit of extra hp and the dodge is completely wasted on a non-dodgy champion like jarvan in my opinion, the ap is useless aswell in my opinion as it deals insignificant damage and does not improve your shield.

You have no basis other then thinking a bruiser cant be a damage dealer, jax can do it just fine, jarvan can do it just fine, mordekaiser can do it just fine and udyr can do it just fine (yes those last 2 have a bit more tank gear but still).

Last but not least, no i do not "think" he can survive, i know he can survive with this build as he has the option to get some survival items other then guardian angel and he deals loads of damage.

bad runes

bad items

bad summoners

hilariously terrible masteries

jarvan is a bruiser, you seriously think you're going to live to do damage/disruption when you have no survivability at all?

That depends on how you use him, ignite is to prevent healers like mundo from totally killing you in your ultimate, also its so you dont have to dive when your ultimate is not ready but still could get the kill, exhaust seems rather unessecary with this build as you get frozen mallet, have a stun, a trap and a slow skill hence the ignite.

And like i said, ghost and flash its all personal prefference, your opinion suggests flash is less usefull in the long run but i completely disagree as it has so many applications.

And for the runes, well i will make a few optional rune choises soon when i've tested them.

The build looks ok but the runes / gear is not my type, beside i dont feel he needs ignite as much, testet him out with ignite and widout and ghost will be more usefull in the long run

Thanks HIACliff.
Also thanks for the compliment Shadow-twin.
Checked out your build and it seemed to check out :).

The first dude is obviously trolling... Berserker's greaves is very viable and extremely useful 1v1 and other stuff

You nailed the skill rotation pretty well too :P

Nice guide, but I can't +1 for two reasons... I haven't tested it and I'm your nemesis! :D (Jarvan guide too <3)

(Check the end of my to get proof of epic Berserker's greaves ownage (Free adv for my guide))