Vapora Dark wrote:
I'm going to rework my WIP Graves guide into a Lucian guide after preseason goes live seeing as Graves is getting reworked without warning. Thanks again for that rito.
They did say like 3 months ago he'd be getting changed. Though I agree it's pretty radical.
You dont think Graves mid will still be a thing? :[
And will this be a Lucian mid guide, or ADC?
The only incoming 
Graves changes I knew of was the eventual "Marksman gameplay update", which sounded more like a change to items rather than to ADC's themselves. Apparently it's both, and Graves's rework is even more drastic than the Mordekaiser rework, and I had no idea he was getting any kit changes at all until the preseason changes announcement.
I doubt Graves will be as good a mid laner as he is currently (which is already not strong enough to be recognized and picked up by any pros as of yet). Part of what makes Graves mid strong is he has way higher attack speed than any mages and way higher AA damage than any mages, and can still out-trade almost any spell with Buckshot with the help of True Grit. His new auto-attacks really limit how much he can abuse his stronger auto-attacks (even though they are even stronger now), and rip attack speed advantage. It might still be viable'ish, at least in some matchups, but it's a completely different playstyle to what makes current Graves mid so fun for me.
ADC. Lucian mid doesn't have anywhere near as many good matchups as Graves does, and even then I don't think he's ever actually a good pick. And even my Graves guide was just going to be for ADC.
Graves changes I knew of was the eventual "Marksman gameplay update", which sounded more like a change to items rather than to ADC's themselves. Apparently it's both, and Graves's rework is even more drastic than the Mordekaiser rework, and I had no idea he was getting any kit changes at all until the preseason changes announcement.I doubt
Graves will be as good a mid laner as he is currently (which is already not strong enough to be recognized and picked up by any pros as of yet). Part of what makes Graves mid strong is he has way higher attack speed than any mages and way higher AA damage than any mages, and can still out-trade almost any spell with Buckshot with the help of True Grit. His new auto-attacks really limit how much he can abuse his stronger auto-attacks (even though they are even stronger now), and rip attack speed advantage. It might still be viable'ish, at least in some matchups, but it's a completely different playstyle to what makes current Graves mid so fun for me.ADC.
Lucian mid doesn't have anywhere near as many good matchups as Graves does, and even then I don't think he's ever actually a good pick. And even my Graves guide was just going to be for ADC.
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