Taggrin's Solo Queue Tier List

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]I still think Nidalee is a poor pick for a few reasons. First, she used to be a strong viable pick because she had high mobility for split pushing options, and her heal was amazing, making her one of the strongest ap carry / support hybrids. What they did was nerf her mobility and nerf her heal. They attempted to make her an offtank in cougar mode but failed, and instead took away what she was good at. No buffs will make her what she was, and maybe shes higher than tier 4, but that remains to be seen.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Hmm, maybe add to [[Leblanc]]'s [[Mimic]], that the spell, which is used with [[Mimic]], deals 50% AOE dmg if the ult is used. Would make her viable^^. Oh, and nerf base stats and buff ap-ratios^^.(Maybe 0.8 at all abilities)[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]The design of Leblanc is just not good for ap casters. Her range for her main combo is too small for her to be safe while casting, and it requires her to actually blink INTO the enemy team, meaning incredibly fast reflexes are required JUST to not die. Being successful is another topic entirely.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]A few notes here tag: Kog should be tier 1. Kog hella strong right now. Should also bump Ezreal up at least one tier. He is even showing up in competitive play now and is a really strong pick. Galio is a fucking good top btw... Not so much mid because he doesn't have the damage output to match that of an AP carry. Top is best so you can have an actual AP carry on your team. I also think you are wrong about trist. She is one of the strongest AD carries lategame. Insane range, huge AS steroid, one of the best jumps and a knockback to go with it. Trist's real issue lies mid game where she does not do much damage until she gets 2/3 items. But late game trists just faceroll. Hotshot is beginning to play an atmogs nidalee, which he claims to be really strong. You should keep an eye on that.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]Gotta agree with Evildice. Kog'maw is suprisingly strong right now. Dunno why. Same goes for ezreal. And trist is just really great late game. Just because of her superior range and utility.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Oh Jarvan, how far the mighty hath fallen. Personal opinions; Both Jarvan and Leona should be tier 3, but Leona in my book is a very high tier three or a very low tier 2 to be honest. I think she's better than people credit her for, particularly with half the supports now not having the same sustain as before. (Compare her to a Janna perhaps) Even though there are champions who do everything Jarvan does but better, I still think he deserves a Tier 3 spot. I think Fiddles should be tier 3, not terribly impressed by most Fiddles, even though one good Fiddle ult can be GG. I think Kassadin should be tier 2 as well, seeing as he is a top ban at the moment in high Elo play, although I can personally see reasons he can be placed in 3 so I won't argue it. If you ask me, there's no way Olaf is tier 4. :P He's Tier 3 or Tier 2, the ult is too good and end game he's a terror. It's just his mid game is so piss poor that he's not a top pick by any means, seeing as mid game is such an important time. I think Cait's gotta be Tier 1. I think Irelia's a Tier 2 right now. I think WW is 2 or 3. I think Garen is tier 2 as well. I think Anivia is tier 2. As much as I love Mundo, I think he's tier 4. :( I think between Trundle's pillar and the way that Trundle's ult counters a few champions like Cho and Singed merit him a spot in the #2 Tier. I think you've probably never seen my Offtank AD Sion or you might place him tier 2 >:P Urgot, Tier 2 in my book, but not as a bot lane carry, as a solo top champion. Kayle, Wukong, both very strong 3's or weak tier 2's imo. They're fine where they are in my book, but sorta don't fit there in a way. Nasus and Shen gatta be a lil higher than 4 imo >:P There's no way Mundo is better than Nasus. Same for Sivir really, as an end game carry her damage is sort of unrivaled in team fights, and she supports her team to boot. I like her :o She's niche, so I'd probably put her in Tier 3 myself. Otherwise, I either agree, or I don't have an opinion or I lack experience with the champ or something, so I don't really have much to say, seems like a reasonable tier list. The above pointers are just my opinions.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]In regards to Leblanc, I think she could be run bot lane with someone like Maokai personally, simply to counter the AD afk farm strategy that is so prevalent.[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]Hmm. I agree with a lot of the stuff that the last three posters had to say. Ill make some changes. A few things tho. Just like people underestimate a lot of other champs, a lot of people underestimate mundo. The ONLY reason he isn't played more is because he is countered by ignite. Outside of that, he is one of the strongest offtanks in the game IMO. Between the cleaver and masochism, he is an incredibly strong champ. For nasus, he requires so much farm that he really isnt viable till 35 minutes into the game when he has triforce and a tank item. before then, he NEEDS to afk farm or he will not be useful enough. and often times the game ends before nasus can show his true potential. I actually am beginning to think that fiddle might not be as high as I have him... i just didnt know where to put him. Idk about tier 3, but maybe low tier 1 or high tier 2. WW is underrated right now. Just because his viability in lane is gone does not mean he is a poor champ now. He will still wreck face given any amount of farm like before. As for kog and ez, well. I have yet to see good players of either ones, and I play the occasional ezreal and I just don't find him doing as much damage as i would like. Maybe im building him wrong, but idk. As for kog, he just doesnt have that utility or mobility like the other tier 1 ad carries. plus, he isnt actually an ad carry. just a ranged carry. Idk. Ill take a look into it. For galio, I've really only seen him at mid. I dont think ive ever laned against him at top, and im a top specialist. I suppose its entirely viable, but I just feel like galio has always been a bit of a waste of solo farm. Especially when there are champs like Irelia, Udyr, Gangplank, Nasus, etc that can abuse the farm carrying to late game.[/quote]

[quote=ZeroRacer]How many swains have you seen around your elo? He really is in an odd spot, I see him used and picked in competitive from time to time and he never fares too badly, however just his numbers against other AP casters don't match up.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]You should see HSGG's recent games with Galio in scrims and such. It's horrifying. :P He's a great solo top with sustain and he does more damage than most other solo tops if he lands a clutch ult.[/quote]