My new Udyr runes/masteries

[quote=Searz]Phoenix jungledyr is plenty enough OP for me already :) Besides I'm the jungler in my team so that would be the obvious choice for me :P[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]Wow i feel like I should slap myself... I always advocate how flexible Udyr is, but here I am saying Phoenix is really the only way to jungle him. Tiger is completely viable and gets you better ganks, but it is easier to fall behind due to poor farming speed, in and out of the jungle. Phoenix is more consistent, with only a small part of ganking potential being taken out. the extra jungle speed far outweighs the loss of gank potential (which is minimal).[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Yea, Tiger jungle is viable, but I see more benefits in running Phoenix. Because of that I just don't see any reason to run Tiger jungle atm. Editing comments to make bad grammar go shoot itself... like a baws.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210]Personally I enjoy ganking at level 5 with both tiger and phoenix. Use tiger for burst early and finish with phoenix for late burst. I usually stick to AtkS Marks and movespeed quints. You can mix your marks and use AD quints if you wan't more gank power. Something like 6 AtkS Marks with 3 AD and full AD quints. Phoenix is the best for jungle and doesn't lose much DPS on ganks, unless you don't proc for some reason. The reason you would want to use tiger over phoenix is because your upfront damage is so high. Tiger works best with scaling and if your pushing DPS Udyr you need to really focus on AD scaling. Phoenix works wonders for full tank dps with [[wit's end]]. No one stance is better than the other because they both fulfill different roles while also sporting nice damage. When using tiger focus on flat AD, but when using phoenix AtkS is the only way to build.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]as I already said, I just decided to go back to phoenix jungling. Yet since I found out I have all the runes for tiger power I'm gonna keep that runepage and use it if I go lanedyr[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]Huzzah Zio has seen the light! Go forth young one, and prosper.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]That's really a good way to win at this game. If you're a really good Udyr, you should lane him if you can't get the jungle because you'll be well equipped and prepared. It's like me, when I jungle I prefer to take Cho Gath, because Cho's jungle is actually quite ridiculous and I'm pretty damn good at Cho. So I can stand behind maining a champ like Udyr who can solo pretty well and jungle very well :)[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]Huehuehue. Stop telling people to main Udyr Duff. He's MY champ. I bought the rights to him. Ok maybe not really. But I would if I could. As for jungle cho, i've heard nothing but good things about it, just never got around to trying it. I never had a need to learn it when Udyr is open about 90% of my games lol.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yeahp. I have tried both Phoenix Udyr and jungle Cho and I have to say, it felt comparable. I bought wits end on both of them, and Max E on Cho and Phoenix Stance on Udyr and both of them just easily tear through the jungle. It's pretty nuts :3 People under estimate what a fast clear time on a jungler does- That's why I tell people who have never jungled before to stop laning and just jungle for 1-2 months. They can go back to lane afterwards but jungling really teaches you a lot about this game.[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]Jungling forces the player to think about the entire map instead of just their lane. Creates a sense of map awareness that just cant be learned from the lane.[/quote]