Concerning ranged AD.

[quote=GrimmFate][quote=DuffTime] <3 [/quote] [img=http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k506/GrimHumor/HatersToTheRight.gif] Says I[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]If you think Vayne and Kogmaw are not strong laners then you're doing it wrong. There is not one style of lane play for all champions. Passive farming does not work on all top laners. Aggression needs to applied differently for all bot lane champs. They are all unique. Corki is burst aggression/poke. Caitlyn is constant poke/harass. Vayne is carefully farm/harass and suddenly explode for the kill. Kogmaw can do whatever he wants to do, but he is very squishy so you need to be a really good Kogmaw to succeed (He's just amazing when you're good though.) So my statement is that if you think Vayne and Kog are weak in lane, then you're not playing them correctly.[/quote]

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[quote=Dotter]I think Sivir is stronger than all other AD carries atm.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Ace Ventura] I mean not so strong as Cait. What I'm just doing it wrong. [/quote] Vayne/Stun > Cait/No Stun. Vayne is an amazing laner versus Caitlyn, and then she owns cait late game without oracles. Also @Dotter, She's probably not #1, but she's really good in a solo lane vs an AP.[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232][quote=Dotter] I think Sivir is stronger than all other AD carries atm. [/quote] kk you pick sivir i pick kog'maw and we free farm for 40 minutes then 1v1.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Temzilla] Vayne/Stun > Cait/No Stun. Vayne is an amazing laner versus Caitlyn, and then she owns cait late game without oracles. Also @Dotter, She's probably not #1, but she's really good in a solo lane vs an AP. [/quote] Isn't Vayne's stun situational? Plus Caitlyn does have traps. They can't exactly stun in a fight alone, but combined with say, Taric or Alistar you can get a massive CC chain. Plus Cait has a big range advantage and can just Q if vayne rolls forward.[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288][quote=Luther3000] [quote=Temzilla] Vayne/Stun > Cait/No Stun. Vayne is an amazing laner versus Caitlyn, and then she owns cait late game without oracles. Also @Dotter, She's probably not #1, but she's really good in a solo lane vs an AP. [/quote] Isn't Vayne's stun situational? Plus Caitlyn does have traps. They can't exactly stun in a fight alone, but combined with say, Taric or Alistar you can get a massive CC chain. Plus Cait has a big range advantage and can just Q if vayne rolls forward. [/quote] See Cait needs an amazing lane cc'er to do well, kog and graves don't.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]She doesn't need it to do well, she only needs it to absolutely dominate her lane from the start. Cait can do just fine with a Sona or Janna support too. From what I've heard/seen Graves is completely overpowered so he doesn't even really count. :P[/quote]