Today's Morde

[quote=DuffTime]I would tend to agree with Mr. Temzilla but I literally have no seen a single Morde at all since nerfs :P[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=Temzilla] [quote=Nighthawk] He does still win a lot of lanes actually. It's just a hella of a lot harder to win. Also you aren't really saying now that his nerf made him bad, your just saying he's bad anyways aren't you >.> @ Tem Not quite. It's possible to win your lane against ranged AD, although MUCH MUCH harder and you definitely can't push as hard without wards. I've even beaten a Vayne 1 v 1 top. And no, she wasn't that bad. She hurt like a bitch. He beats Jax, Irelia, Nasus, Lee, Jarvan, Garen, Vlad, Skarner, Mundo, Malphite, Udyr, Talon, Yorick, Wukong, WW and possibly Cho, Olaf and Zilean. He loses to most AP carries. Especially Akali. Akali is a hard counter. And maybe Renekton. AD carries are hard too, but you can win still. You just have to play really conservative, which probably means Morde wasn't the best choice. Morde shines when he's aggressive and able to be so. [/quote] No, he doesn't win against [color=#ff0000]Jax, Irelia, Nasus, Lee[/color], Jarvan, [color=#ff0000]Garen[/color], Vlad, Skarner, Mundo, Malphite, [color=#ff0000]Udyr, Talon, Yorick, Wukong[/color], WW, [color=#ff0000]Cho, Olaf, OR Zilean[/color]. He barely beat half of them before his nerf, and now, every single one of them just fight him, and kill him. Some of those suggestions make me think you're just straight up retarded and have never actually played mordekaiser top before. Edit: The ones in red, he is absolutely raped by. Before the patch, he could beat akali if played right. Renekton was someone that he couldn't kill, and couldn't be killed by, and then was better late game than. Both rape the shit out of him now. [/quote] Morde beats Jax for sure. I have yet to lose to a Jax pretty well ever. Sure he has nice damage, but you out harass and outfarm him and your sustainability is probably better too (last time I checked most Jax took Blade first). If he does harass you, he loses mana to fast to be able to shit to you. Same with Nasus. Morde just shits on Nasus. Idk who you've been playing if you can't shit on a Nasus as Morde. Most Irelia CAN beat Morde. But as far as I recall, I haven't seen an Irelia lvl up E first for aaaagesss. Morde beats Lee. It can get a bit risky if Lee is able to harass you tons with Q, however that shouldn't really happen. Armor runes OP anyways. Garen, Talon, Wu and Zilean are the only lanes that are dangerous. But he doesn't get raped by them. Udyr, Cho, Olaf and Yorick aren't that hard to beat either. Yorick and Olaf are semi dangerous, but Cho and Udyr? Really?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]You think Morde beats Jax.... Lol.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Honestly, I can see why Morde beats Jax. Jax has no real pushing power and Morde can easily over-push lanes and deny Jax of farm. Nasus, I see as well. Nasus can either push the lane or farm Q. If he tries to farm Q, he will get hit by Morde... [b]A lot[/b].[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]All Jax has to do is hit 6 and go crazy with engages though :p Since Morde shield is bashed to bits it's hard for Morde to trade.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=DuffTime] All Jax has to do is hit 6 and go crazy with engages though :p Since Morde shield is bashed to bits it's hard for Morde to trade. [/quote] Then he loses mana to fast, you regen faster then he does, you kill him. Kapeesh? TP really helps btw. And if I have exhaust, I lol at Jax and kick his ass.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]No I just kill you from full to zero or leave you low and zone you.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Jep, maybe below lvl 6 Jax will have some trouble, but the moment he hits it youre toast. Pre nerf: You would keep your shield up and harass him while hes mentally down the gutter, since he cant engage without you killing the whole minionwave leaving him between yours. Now your shield is barely up enough, so he waits till youre low and youll suffer a FULL combo leaving you with about half your health to face him while his MR is over 85(lvl6) at least. In my case using every spell once does 564 magic dmg + 77 (1 autohit) physical dmg - your defense (Most cases should be ~30%) makes all in all +400 dmg instant on some Mordekaiser with somewhat 30-50 shield and +900 life. Since Morde isnt somebody who can fight 1on1, the only thing that can save you somehow is that ulti of yours while Jax fends off around 40-45% of your magic dmg. (Dunno if thats possible, but if youre lucky your Mace of Spades will be dodged)[/quote]

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[quote=Temzilla][quote=Nighthawk]Morde beats Jax for sure. I have yet to lose to a Jax pretty well ever. Sure he has nice damage, but you out harass and outfarm him and your sustainability is probably better too (last time I checked most Jax took Blade first). If he does harass you, he loses mana to fast to be able to shit to you. Same with Nasus. Morde just shits on Nasus. Idk who you've been playing if you can't shit on a Nasus as Morde. Most Irelia CAN beat Morde. But as far as I recall, I haven't seen an Irelia lvl up E first for aaaagesss. Morde beats Lee. It can get a bit risky if Lee is able to harass you tons with Q, however that shouldn't really happen. Armor runes OP anyways. Garen, Talon, Wu and Zilean are the only lanes that are dangerous. But he doesn't get raped by them. Udyr, Cho, Olaf and Yorick aren't that hard to beat either. Yorick and Olaf are semi dangerous, but Cho and Udyr? Really? [/quote] Jax? Jax literally jumps on you, exhausts you, and gets free level 1 fb, you can never at any point in the game trade with jax. You can never trade with Nasus, you can never trade with irelia, you can never trade with Lee, you can never trade with Garen, Talon or Zilean. Actually, Zilean used to be his hard counter, back when he wasn't nerfed, and you needed your entire shield bar to defend against a single bomb, let alone the second one. Cho fucking levels spikes, and just melees you out of lane. You can't fucking trade with Udyr, and he has turtle. You can't trade with any of the characters you listed. If you can't trade, they can free farm and you can't, so they have won the lane, no matter if they kill you or not.[/quote]