What you can do...

[quote=NicknameMy]... if the support steals all your farm as an ad-carry and thinks he has to play carry with ap-[[sona]]... ... if you get your blue stolen at the first jungle route by your own teammate as [[amumu]], resulting into flaming...[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]a) You can lasthit better, even if the support wants to lasthit. b) Get smite. Bwuahaha[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=Wintermond] a) You can lasthit better, even if the support wants to lasthit. b) Get smite. Bwuahaha [/quote] QFT. How do you ever get a blue stolen from you at level 1? Nobody can match 445 damage in a burst at level 1.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I started at wraiths, while he has done golem...[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]Why would you ever start at Wraiths on Amumu?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Because I go wraiths-wolves-golem-wraiths-lizard-golems, This is the fastest jungle route for [[amumu]]. (3:53, tested) But you need [[awareness]] and [[expanded mind]] to pull it off. It is so fast, because you can start with [[tantrum]], hit 2 at [[golem]] and use [[despair]] then.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=NicknameMy] Because I go wraiths-wolves-golem-wraiths-lizard-golems, This is the fastest jungle route for [[amumu]]. (3:53, tested) But you need [[awareness]] and [[expanded mind]] to pull it off. It is so fast, because you can start with [[tantrum]], hit 2 at [[golem]] and use [[despair]] then. [/quote] But that's really bad in the long run. Focussed masteries/runesets are stupid on junglers now. Going utility just for the XP mastery is silly. Go defence and be useful for the whole game. Starting at golem means your mid gets blue buff earlier too, which is always a bonus. Go Aggressive. Speed isn't everything for jungling.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Actually, if so, start at wolves and go for golem then, because you can clear wolves out in 15 secs.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis]Well yeah, that's the new meaning of "starting at golem", since you do it as soon as it's up.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Nickname... you realize that a route consisting of Blue->Wolves->Wraiths->Red->Golems->Wraiths will get you to level 4 even with 9/21/0 or 0/21/9 masteries, right?[/quote]